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Old 04-08-2009, 09:01 AM   #1
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Re: You think this would shake up the Draft!?

Uh Oh........Trirckle effect all ready? This is hilarious! Its like a game of hot potato for who picks "first". This is great!!!!
The National Football Post | Rams Willing To Trade #2 Pick
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:42 AM   #2
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Re: You think this would shake up the Draft!?

I dont have the Lions taking Stafford anyways, so if they pass on the 1st pick, m ymock draft may look a little more realistic.
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:14 AM   #3
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Just makes me sick to think you spend all that money and it might not work out. IMO I would take the OL over the QB. Reguardless The Lions will still find away to mess things up.
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Old 04-08-2009, 01:45 PM   #4
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Re: You think this would shake up the Draft!?

The team with the first pick has the advantage of negotiating with whoever they want. They could go to Alex Mack, for example, and negotiate a deal that recognizes that Mack isn't the best player in the draft, just the one that they are picking first. They could pay Mack like he was picked 15th - as long as he agrees.

Owners don't actually have to pay a player they pick in the draft if they can't get a reasonable deal, but historically agents have bent the owners over a barrel and maybe they are just used to it.

The real issue with trading out of the tops picks is an outdated tradevaluechart which is very broken. If the team that has a top pick like #2 and wants to drop down to #8, theyshould be willing to make that trade for minimal compensation in return, like a 3rd and a 4th. But the stupid tradevalue chart says that the difference is 1200 pts. My point is that the point value of these top picks should be drastically diminished, the scale is way out of whack.

Maybe the team with the high pick that doesn't want it can do something imaginative with it, like trade it to another team for their 6th round pick for the next 100 years (which according to the chart, is a steal for the team giving up the 6th round pick).
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Old 04-08-2009, 02:27 PM   #5
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For reasons that have never made a lot of sense to me, the NFLPA has vehemently opposed a rookie pay scale. Here is why I do not understand their position.

Every team in the NFL has a salary cap AND a salary floor. Every team has to spend more than X million dollars and less than Y million dollars on player salaries every year. If rookie wagers are "reined in", the salary money "saved there" has to go to other players who are not rookies. And "not rookies" are the players who are the current menbers of the NFLPA.

So, the NFLPA position seems to favor showering money on college kids who are not Association members at the time of the draft at the expense of putting that money in the pockets of current members of the Association.

I don't get it. But the reason there is no rookie wage scale is that the NFLPA - - and Gene Upshaw very specifically - - fought it tooth and nail.
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Old 04-08-2009, 04:38 PM   #6
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For reasons that have never made a lot of sense to me, the NFLPA has vehemently opposed a rookie pay scale. Here is why I do not understand their position.

Every team in the NFL has a salary cap AND a salary floor. Every team has to spend more than X million dollars and less than Y million dollars on player salaries every year. If rookie wagers are "reined in", the salary money "saved there" has to go to other players who are not rookies. And "not rookies" are the players who are the current menbers of the NFLPA.

So, the NFLPA position seems to favor showering money on college kids who are not Association members at the time of the draft at the expense of putting that money in the pockets of current members of the Association.

I don't get it. But the reason there is no rookie wage scale is that the NFLPA - - and Gene Upshaw very specifically - - fought it tooth and nail.
This is right on. The real question is why is the NFLPA so insistent on this position? If the answer is to maintain a free market then the teams have no one to blame but themselves. Setting a "rookie scale" (can you see the agents buying this?) would relieve a lot of pressure from the veterans - and there wouldn't be anything wrong with renegotiating after a year.
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Old 04-08-2009, 02:28 PM   #7
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Re: You think this would shake up the Draft!?

Yeah, the 1st overall pick is a curse rather than a gift that helps you build your franchise up. All it does is give you the first shot in a complete crap shoot and strains your cap.
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