Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay?

SmootSmack · 04-25-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by celts32

I love Kiper...he's the best and the original. I think Mayock is really good though. McShay...no thanks.

Speaking of McShay...does anyone else find it odd that he seems to be on ESPN more then Mel leading up to the draft? Kiper seems to be so under utilized by ESPN. Not sure if thats his doing or ESPN's doing. Smoot?

Don't worry, Mel will be on a lot this weekend. McShay is around more often and he always wants to work. Anything you need, he's extremely helpful.

GMScud · 04-25-2009, 10:20 AM

Sometimes Kiper gets on my nerves (I think it's the hair), but I don't dislike him. McShay is really solid IMO. I'm not sure if it's their delivery, but I feel like Mike Mayock is the best talent evaluator of the three. I really love his analysis during the scouting combine.

On a side note, the "Mock McShay" bit on Mike & Mike in the Morning was hilarious. "Hey McShay, are you related to Ryan Seacrest or are the hair and height a coincidence?" LOL! Great stuff.

Anyone see this article in the NY Times yesterday? Great read about Mel Kiper and his wife Kim. They run their entire business out of their home in Baltimore. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/sp...l/24kiper.html

KI Skins Fan · 04-25-2009, 10:33 AM

If I had to choose one, I'd say Kiper. That's because of his passion and his style. I love the faces he makes when a team makes a pick that he doesn't like. And he's the original media Draft Guru, as far as I know.

I think Mayock does great write-ups of his evaluations. McShay seems to be on top of all things concerning the NFL Draft. So, I enjoy what each of them has to offer.

Lotus · 04-25-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

If I had to choose one, I'd say Kiper. That's because of his passion and his style. I love the faces he makes when a team makes a pick that he doesn't like. And he's the original media Draft Guru, as far as I know.

I think Mayock does great write-ups of his evaluations. McShay seems to be on top of all things concerning the NFL Draft. So, I enjoy what each of them has to offer.

I agree somewhat. None of them are all correct or all wrong so it is good to have a plurality of voices.

If I had to choose just one, though, it would be Mayock in terms of both knowledge and style.

Eknox · 04-25-2009, 11:08 AM

I like Mayock, Mcshay's a douche and Kiper is very irritating..plus Mayock played the game

GTripp0012 · 04-25-2009, 11:13 AM

I think Mayock does the best work of the three. However, I think the wisdom in draft analysis comes not just in one unique opinion, but in the collective. As long as they develop their own opinions independent of each other, I think that the process is functional.

The Goat · 04-25-2009, 11:52 AM

Haha nice thread topic for a change. I prefer Kiper in both style and knowledge. He tends to relate things in terms of value more which is the a huge factor in the draft.

SmootSmack · 04-25-2009, 01:00 PM

I don't get this whole McShay is a douche thing. He's really not, not at all. He's actually a pretty good guy. And, like I said, always willing to help with anything.

WaldSkins · 04-25-2009, 01:03 PM

I like Kiper but i can't stand listening to Berman for more then 5 minutes. I guess i'll be watching NFLN today.

Boston Brave · 04-25-2009, 01:40 PM

I am also a Kiper guy, however I wish ESPN would not put the vast majority of his analysis in the "Insider." I usually look at ESPN at work so I can't log in...etc to give me some degree of deniability. Wish Kiper was like Peter King on CNNSI, right up front!

jamf · 04-25-2009, 02:01 PM

I like Kiper but cant watch because Berman likes to announce every draft pick 5 seconds before the commish, That drives me apeshit.

It's all about mayock this year.

BleedBurgundy · 04-25-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't get this whole McShay is a douche thing. He's really not, not at all. He's actually a pretty good guy. And, like I said, always willing to help with anything.

I don't think he comes across well on tv. There're times where I catch a segment that he's doing and his personality (or at least how it comes across) just rubs me the wrong way. Hard to put a finger on "likability."

SmokinSkins · 04-25-2009, 02:24 PM

Kiper is a Character, fun to watch and hear his angle on things.

skinsfan69 · 04-25-2009, 02:30 PM

Mayock is the man. He gets up on the board and breaks guys down plus like someone else mentioned he's actually played in the NFL. Very very knowledgeable and his vibe isn't as annoying as Mel Kiper.

53Fan · 04-26-2009, 12:20 AM

I think they all have something to add but the draft just would'nt seem right to me without Kiper.

04-25-2009, 10:20 AM	#17
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay? Sometimes Kiper gets on my nerves (I think it's the hair), but I don't dislike him. McShay is really solid IMO. I'm not sure if it's their delivery, but I feel like Mike Mayock is the best talent evaluator of the three. I really love his analysis during the scouting combine. On a side note, the "Mock McShay" bit on Mike & Mike in the Morning was hilarious. "Hey McShay, are you related to Ryan Seacrest or are the hair and height a coincidence?" LOL! Great stuff. Anyone see this article in the NY Times yesterday? Great read about Mel Kiper and his wife Kim. They run their entire business out of their home in Baltimore. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/sp...l/24kiper.html __________________ Tardy

04-25-2009, 10:33 AM	#18
KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,412	Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay? If I had to choose one, I'd say Kiper. That's because of his passion and his style. I love the faces he makes when a team makes a pick that he doesn't like. And he's the original media Draft Guru, as far as I know. I think Mayock does great write-ups of his evaluations. McShay seems to be on top of all things concerning the NFL Draft. So, I enjoy what each of them has to offer.

04-25-2009, 11:08 AM	#20
Eknox Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Flint,Mi Posts: 528	Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay? I like Mayock, Mcshay's a douche and Kiper is very irritating..plus Mayock played the game

04-25-2009, 11:13 AM	#21
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay? I think Mayock does the best work of the three. However, I think the wisdom in draft analysis comes not just in one unique opinion, but in the collective. As long as they develop their own opinions independent of each other, I think that the process is functional. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

04-25-2009, 11:52 AM	#22
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay? Haha nice thread topic for a change. I prefer Kiper in both style and knowledge. He tends to relate things in terms of value more which is the a huge factor in the draft. __________________ 24-34

04-25-2009, 01:00 PM	#23
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay? I don't get this whole McShay is a douche thing. He's really not, not at all. He's actually a pretty good guy. And, like I said, always willing to help with anything. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

04-25-2009, 01:03 PM	#24
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 42 Posts: 2,726	Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay? I like Kiper but i can't stand listening to Berman for more then 5 minutes. I guess i'll be watching NFLN today. __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown

04-25-2009, 01:40 PM	#25
Boston Brave Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 44	Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay? I am also a Kiper guy, however I wish ESPN would not put the vast majority of his analysis in the "Insider." I usually look at ESPN at work so I can't log in...etc to give me some degree of deniability. Wish Kiper was like Peter King on CNNSI, right up front!

04-25-2009, 02:01 PM	#26
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,349	Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay? I like Kiper but cant watch because Berman likes to announce every draft pick 5 seconds before the commish, That drives me apeshit. It's all about mayock this year.

04-25-2009, 02:24 PM	#28
SmokinSkins Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 20	Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay? Kiper is a Character, fun to watch and hear his angle on things.

04-25-2009, 02:30 PM	#29
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,439	Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay? Mayock is the man. He gets up on the board and breaks guys down plus like someone else mentioned he's actually played in the NFL. Very very knowledgeable and his vibe isn't as annoying as Mel Kiper.

04-26-2009, 12:20 AM	#30
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay? I think they all have something to add but the draft just would'nt seem right to me without Kiper. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

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