Two Guys, One Cut

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

yeah thats what i thought too. just havent watched enough for me to make a somewhat informed opinion.

gtripp - as much as i hate saying this i would cut rock to make the roster space. i've been a huge rock fan ever since he personally apologized to the whole locker room after fumbling the ball on the goaline against the cowboys years ago. showed real heart and accountability but i think his time with the skins may be over even if he is a skin at heart.

on special teams rock returns kick offs by running full steam ahead which i assume dorsey can do just as well since thats, to my understanding, why we broght him here from the cfl.

but can dorsey make tackles on special teams coverage?
is rock the vocal leader and on-field coach of the special teams coverage?
if dorsey does ST coverage, will the man's body hold up to the beating and still stay explosive?

I'd agree with Rock's release on the principle of roster space economy, but I don't think this team is better off with Dorsey or Mason in his place. I think we can keep 4 RB if we want a change of pace back and punt returner, but without Rock, now we're losing something tangible in the KR game in that few are better, and we're trying to replace everything else he does as well.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Chase Daniel or Colt Brennan
Eh. Colt cause he's old. Neither is necessarily deserving, but Chase Daniel has that 3-5% chance of becoming our franchise QB. If Colt gets his time next year, he'll already be 26 or 27. Can't develop that.

Shaun Suisham or Dave Rayner
Dave Rayner because Suisham isn't ungodly awful on kickoffs and has decent accuracy numbers over his career.

Marcus Mason or Domonique Dorsey (I'll add Rock Cartwright here)
Mason becuase Dorsey's value added on Punt Returns makes him valuable to us. Mason gives us an explosive runner out of the backfield, but there's no playing time on this team for someone like that.

Devin Clark or Mike Williams
Both. I'd keep Edwin Williams instead as a backup C/G, and I'd make Rinehart the emergency LT.

Cody Glenn or Robert Thomas
I'd have to cut Glenn given this choice because Thomas seems like the only quailty backup WLB we have on the roster, but truth is, I'd maybe oust Fincher so that we could see a year of Glenn hitting people on special teams.

Renaldo Wynn or Alex Buzbee (I'll add Rob Jackson here)
Buzbee, I guess. I like the idea of having Wynn back up an injury prone player Daniels, so that they don't have to force Jarmon onto the field. Wynn is an easy mid-season cut if Jarmon earns his way onto the field, and I think Buzbee is still PS eligible. I like Jackson's development to this point too much to let him go before his second season.

Justin Tryon or Bryon Westbrook
Westbrook. Tryon hasn't shown much, but better to flash skill in practice than to not have it at all.

what matters about colt tho is how much his body has taken, hit wise, than age wise..tony romo started for dallas at 27

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So in some cases below, both players may make the team and in some cases neither may.

But let's suppose you had to make the call. If you had to make a decision today, which of the two guys would you cut?

Remember...this isn't how you think would be cut. This is who you would cut (and that, of course, would include putting someone on the practice squad)

Chase Daniel or Colt Brennan
I'd put Chase on the practice squad. He'll be starting for us in 2011 though

Shaun Suisham or Dave Rayner
Better the devil you know, cut Rayner

Marcus Mason or Domonique Dorsey (I'll add Rock Cartwright here)
I can't find a spot for Mason, so I'll cut him. I really like what I saw of Dorsey the other day both as a back and especially on special teams

Devin Clark or Mike Williams
I'd cut Clark and maybe put Williams on the PUP list until mid-season

Cody Glenn or Robert Thomas
I'd cut Thomas, I think Glenn can add special teams value. I had high hopes for Thomas this summer, but haven't seen much

Renaldo Wynn or Alex Buzbee (I'll add Rob Jackson here)
I'd cut Wynn, give his playing time to Jarmon

Justin Tryon or Bryon Westbrook
I'd cut Westbrook because I haven't been able to figure what he offers beyond telling us his brother won't play against us

I agree with all of your choices except Clark/Williams. I'd tell Big Mike, "Nice try, but sorry" and try to develop Clark more.

[GridIron26]

I agree w/ GTripp and Lotus, as well..

[DBUCHANON101]

In the Daniel vs Brennan saga hopefully the loser is released after this game. It will be early enough for the other to find a spot with many teams looking for backup QB's or in a case like SF maybe even a starter. Hill and Smith have both been horrid.

[SBXVII]

My keepers:

Chase Daniel or Colt Brennan: I'd like to say keep both and ditch Collins. Maybe keep Chase and put Colt on practice squad. Other teams I'm sure see him as wreckless and takes chances. They might over look him on the PS.

Shaun Suisham or Dave Rayner: Suisham, we know what we have in him. With a decent holder he's not bad.

Marcus Mason or Domonique Dorsey (I'll add Rock Cartwright here): Portis, Betts, and Rock are all supposedly similar runners. I'd keep Mason and Dorsey and cut Betts who's getting older and more injury prone and Rock who is only a KR technically. Mason could be groomed for the future after Portis and Dorsey could do KR/PR and be the speed back.

Devin Clark or Mike Williams: This is my risky pick. I'd take MW. Clark has had his time and not shown much to me. MW has heart at this point.

Cody Glenn or Robert Thomas: I think I would take Glenn here also. Lets see what he's got.

Renaldo Wynn or Alex Buzbee (I'll add Rob Jackson here): Flip a coin. Buzbee's younger. I'll take Buzbee.

Justin Tryon or Bryon Westbrook: I bad mouthed Westbrook since he's been here. 3 yrs on the PS. Tryon was not bad last yr and showed he could be something, but last two games Tryon looks pitiful and Westbrook actually looked half good last game. I'd still pick Tryon or bump up Barnes.

[Chico23231]

Chase Daniel or Colt Brennan
I need more Chase like I need more cowbell. Need to see the rest of the preseason to strengthen this feelin. Colt to practice team.

Shaun Suisham or Dave Rayner
Keepin Suisham, he will be gone after this season thank god.

Marcus Mason or Domonique Dorsey (I'll add Rock Cartwright here)
Dorsey played great, I hope he makes the team. Bye Marcus
Devin Clark or Mike Williams
This is a toss up, id probably cut Clark. Some much freakin attention been given to Mike, lets keep this guy, but I feel he will disappoint in the end.

Cody Glenn or Robert Thomas
Id stay with the vet here. Worry bout OLB depth. Cody can become a practice squid.
Renaldo Wynn or Alex Buzbee (I'll add Rob Jackson here)
Cut Wynn and Buzbee and keep Rob Jackson at this point.

Justin Tryon or Bryon Westbrook
Stayin with Tryon

[Gmanc711]

Chase Daniel or Colt Brennan
I'd like to put Daniel on the practice squad and let them go at it next year again. If I have to cut one, I'm still cutting Daniel.

Shaun Suisham or Dave Rayner
I really wish it would be Suisham, but Rayner will get cut.

Marcus Mason or Domonique Dorsey (I'll add Rock Cartwright here)
Mason. Cartwright will not get cut because of kick returns, and nor should he.

Devin Clark or Mike Williams
Clark.

Cody Glenn or Robert Thomas
I'd cut Thomas. But I'll be honest, I couldnt pick either of these guys out of a lineup right now.

Renaldo Wynn or Alex Buzbee (I'll add Rob Jackson here)
I really like the guy, but Wynn is the guy to go.

Justin Tryon or Bryon Westbrook
I'd cut them both. Other than Byron playing Brian in practice when we play the Eagles, neither of these guys do anything for me...

[GTripp0012]

Laugh out loud at the thread title, btw.

[#56fanatic]

I can't believe all the cut Colt stuff on here. Chase goes out and plays one decent quarter and now Colt is the one that has to go?? I remember all the "let Colt play" crap from last year. I personally wouldn't keep either if I had the choice. Neither is going to be a franchise QB. Yeah, their nice to watch fling the ball against guys that will be bagging your groceries next week, but no way they are legit starters. But, if I had to play along in this scenario, Daniels cut or practice squad and keep Colt as #3.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I can't believe all the cut Colt stuff on here. Chase goes out and plays one decent quarter and now Colt is the one that has to go?? I remember all the "let Colt play" crap from last year. I personally wouldn't keep either if I had the choice. Neither is going to be a franchise QB. Yeah, their nice to watch fling the ball against guys that will be bagging your groceries next week, but no way they are legit starters. But, if I had to play along in this scenario, Daniels cut or practice squad and keep Colt as #3.

Speak the truth my brother.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I can't believe all the cut Colt stuff on here. Chase goes out and plays one decent quarter and now Colt is the one that has to go?? I remember all the "let Colt play" crap from last year. I personally wouldn't keep either if I had the choice. Neither is going to be a franchise QB. Yeah, their nice to watch fling the ball against guys that will be bagging your groceries next week, but no way they are legit starters. But, if I had to play along in this scenario, Daniels cut or practice squad and keep Colt as #3.

If memory serves me right, the same thing happened to Colt. Which is why I find this whole Colt vs. Chase laughable. The Cult of Colt easily forgets that Colt became a fan favorite by his play in the preseason, yet they are up in arms about it when another QB is doing well this preseason and their beloved Colt is sucking it up.

That being said, I do think that both QBs need another shot before it is decided who gets cut. But if Chase continues to play well and Colt continues to struggle, then keep Chase. Regardless, this is just the 3rd string QB, and if we want our team to win, we should hope that the 3rd stringer doesn't see the field.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

If memory serves me right, the same thing happened to Colt. Which is why I find this whole Colt vs. Chase laughable. The Cult of Colt easily forgets that Colt became a fan favorite by his play in the preseason, yet they are up in arms about it when another QB is doing well this preseason and their beloved Colt is sucking it up.

That being said, I do think that both QBs need another shot before it is decided who gets cut. But if Chase continues to play well and Colt continues to struggle, then keep Chase. Regardless, this is just the 3rd string QB, and if we want our team to win, we should hope that the 3rd stringer doesn't see the field.

The irony is quite delicious isn't it?

You just have to laugh at the fickle nature of fans in general. A month ago people were clamoring for Colt to be the #2, hell even the starter by some real dreamers. Now he's predicted by the majority to be cut in favor of an undrafted FA. You've just gotta laugh and not take this too seriously.

[MTK]

Chase Daniel or Colt Brennan
Cut Colt

Shaun Suisham or Dave Rayner
Cut Rayner

Marcus Mason or Domonique Dorsey (I'll add Rock Cartwright here)
Cut Mason

Devin Clark or Mike Williams
Cut Clark

Cody Glenn or Robert Thomas
Cut Thomas

Renaldo Wynn or Alex Buzbee (I'll add Rob Jackson here)
Cut Wynn

Justin Tryon or Bryon Westbrook
Cut Westbrook

[CRedskinsRule]

Didn't Kurt Warner bag groceries