Adam Schefter: What's Wrong with the Redskins

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

While the game was still in the hat, Campbell never got untracked. By the time the Giants hit a short field goal for a 23-10 lead with 3:12 to play, Campbell had passed for only 145 yards with one interception and two fumbles, one lost. However, his final drive, completing 5 for 6 for 66 yards, including a 17-yard score to Chris Cooley, raised, or padded, his quarterback rating to 93.6.

Why did he only have 145 yards with 3:12 to play? Because he was dinking and dunking and only completing 4 yard passes? Nope. Because he was only completing 50% of his passes? Nope. Because we weren't sustaining drives and we were calling a lot of runs? Yup.

Campbell surely is to blame for much of our struggles on offense. Campbell didn't get the ball out quickly enough, he failed to step up into the pocket on the sack-strip-TD, and he probably didn't take enough chances. However, I felt our passing game was moderately successful between the 20s. I wanted to see us let Campbell throw more, not less passes.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The Giants didn't play all that great either. I'm kinda perplexed over those saying we got outclassed or dominated.

I totally agree. I don't think we were dominated. I just think we didn't come to play. I think that all the talk about Jacobs made us focus on him and not the offense as a whole. HE is the only one we stopped.

I think the Giants next game will gauge how good they are and ours will also. But we have to respect the fact that NY has the best D-Line in the league.

Saying that..If we hadn't turned the ball over and made stupid penalties, as well as poor time management near the end of the game, we probably could have pull this game out some how even though we played poorly.

Just something to ponder.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

Could not agree more... Zorn is so predictable in his play calling overall, especially in the run game... then, only trying a pass over 20+ one time in the game, NEVER stretching the defense to get them off of Portis...

Between that, and the other GLARING fact from yesterday...

Anyone else notice the HUGE CHASM between Eli Manning & Jason Campbell? One QB reads the defense every play, scanning, and audibling to a play that will take advantage of the defense, whereas Campbell look like a deer in the headlights at the line sometimes, then making terrible audible call the one time I saw he did it (a -3 yd run).

Add in the that their D-Line is just flat out too strong & fast for our line, and I'm thinking we were lucky to score 17.

This fact is almost as glaring as the defense's mistakes from yesterday. It's sort of mind-boggling how the offense goes back to the same form entirely regardless of who is calling plays or what kind of scheme we're supposed to be running. Under Gibbs we constantly ran to the left on 1st and 2nd then a lousy and predictable pass play. Under Gibbs/Saunders it continued. And now under Zorn, even when JC is 8 for 11, we return to that terrible pattern: run left, run left, pass play w/ lousy and predictable routes (routes that often have the WR catching the ball in front of the LOS ). That's what is sticking w/ me from yesterday's game. I expected the defense to be underwhelming cuz GTripp has convinced me Blache's scheme is a real problem. What I also expected was a nice surprise from the offense. Zorn has me worried at this point.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

This fact is almost as glaring as the defense's mistakes from yesterday. It's sort of mind-boggling how the offense goes back to the same form entirely regardless of who is calling plays or what kind of scheme we're supposed to be running. Under Gibbs we constantly ran to the left on 1st and 2nd then a lousy and predictable pass play. Under Gibbs/Saunders it continued. And now under Zorn, even when JC is 8 for 11, we return to that terrible pattern: run left, run left, pass play w/ lousy and predictable routes (routes that often have the WR catching the ball in front of the LOS ). That's what is sticking w/ me from yesterday's game. I expected the defense to be underwhelming cuz GTripp has convinced me Blache's scheme is a real problem. What I also expected was a nice surprise from the offense. Zorn has me worried at this point.

I've backed Zorn since he's been here but he's starting to lose me. I am so f**king tired of conservative offense's I could puke. The 2nd play with ARE wasn't conservative but it sure was stupid and that isn't much better. Hopefully he'll adjust his playcalling and start looking like a genius, right now he looks more like Alfred E. Neuman than Albert Einstein and it pisses me off that these "Professional" HC's take so damn long to figure things out. Okay. Now. I fully expect adjustments to be made and for us to look a whole lot smoother and cohesive against the Rams. Hopefully we win a few games and get the offense in gear in time to peak going into the playoffs.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I've backed Zorn since he's been here but he's starting to lose me. I am so f**king tired of conservative offense's I could puke. The 2nd play with ARE wasn't conservative but it sure was stupid and that isn't much better. Hopefully he'll adjust his playcalling and start looking like a genius, right now he looks more like Alfred E. Neuman than Albert Einstein and it pisses me off that these "Professional" HC's take so damn long to figure things out. Okay. Now. I fully expect adjustments to be made and for us to look a whole lot smoother and cohesive against the Rams. Hopefully we win a few games and get the offense in gear in time to peak going into the playoffs.

He has to open it up and use all 7 receivers, mix it up. I seriously believe that Kelly, Thomas, Mitchell and Davis are ready to contribute, stop making every pass to Santana. Look at Aaron Rodgers he let's it fly. We won't know what we got unless we use them.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He has to open it up and use all 7 receivers, mix it up. I seriously believe that Kelly, Thomas, Mitchell and Davis are ready to contribute, stop making every pass to Santana. Look at Aaron Rodgers he let's it fly. We won't know what we got unless we use them.

Personally I would have benched Moss and put Mitchell or DT in. I think they're ready to contribute too but they're not being given much of a chance so far.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Personally I would have benched Moss and put Mitchell or DT in. I think they're ready to contribute too but they're not being given much of a chance so far.

Yep, I would consider making Mitchell my #4 receiver and demote Thomas to #5 (maybe it will light a fire under his ass). Santana would benefit in the slot (occasionally) with his speed along with ARE.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yep, I would consider making Mitchell my #4 receiver and demote Thomas to #5 (maybe it will light a fire under his ass). Santana would benefit in the slot (occasionally) with his speed along with ARE.

You gotta call pass plays and get the guy the ball, the receivers didnt even have an opportunity to contribute. I feel like Kelly & Thomas are ready, but if we continue to just run the ball, they arent gonna help. I blame Zorn more than anyone at this point!

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by roth74va

You gotta call pass plays and get the guy the ball, the receivers didnt even have an opportunity to contribute. I feel like Kelly & Thomas are ready, but if we continue to just run the ball, they arent gonna help. I blame Zorn more than anyone at this point!

Couldn't agree more, he has to trust the youngsters and start using them.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yep, I would consider making Mitchell my #4 receiver and demote Thomas to #5 (maybe it will light a fire under his ass). Santana would benefit in the slot (occasionally) with his speed along with ARE.

I don't have anything against Moss, he's usually our best receiver. But if he can't get his head in the game we have a 6-4 receiver who's just waiting for his chance. I agree about occasionally putting Moss in the slot. As Mitchell and DT progress, maybe we'll do that.

[skins89moss]

I think our O-line did protect Jason most of the day but they did not run block very well except for the first running play. Did anyone remember when Tuck TFL Portis the 1st play after the Hall INT. Heyer blew the block and Tuck came free. O-line struggle to open any holes for the running game.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He has to open it up and use all 7 receivers, mix it up. I seriously believe that Kelly, Thomas, Mitchell and Davis are ready to contribute, stop making every pass to Santana. Look at Aaron Rodgers he let's it fly. We won't know what we got unless we use them.

I have been thinking that exact same thing. It's difficult for me to comprehend, Thomas, Kelly and Davis at this stage of their development cannot get on the field for substantial time and make a contribution. It's difficult for young players when they only get a play here and there. They need to know they have a role in the offense to feel they belong.

[SouperMeister]

Our passing attack is entirely too reliant on Cooley. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but until Kelly, Thomas, and Davis are included in the offensive game plan, expect to see 17 points or less per game. Campbell needs to step up his game big-time, or he can look forward to a career arc similar to Patrick Ramsey's.

[Big C]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The Giants didn't play all that great either. I'm kinda perplexed over those saying we got outclassed or dominated.

I totally agree. I haven't posted anything lately but have read all these comments about the giants being way better talent-wise or being outclassed and I just don't see it. The giants got one td on a crappy screen pass that we missed like 3 or 4 tackles on, very simple tackles, and osi got a fumble for td on just a crappy play by us. We played pretty bad on offense yet we were still in the game the whole time. The giants were not good, we were just worse on the day. I could definitely see the giants finishing last in the division.

[MTK]

Give credit to the Giants for taking Moss away. I'm not buying this talk that Moss wasn't playing hard or gave up. Until other guys step up as legit threats teams are going to key on Moss. ARE and Cooley contributed which was great of course, but someone else on the outside needs to step up. Kelly and Thomas I'm looking at you guys.