Zorn wanted to cut Brennan prior to 09 season - report

[MTK]

Collins had a solid tenure here, he's always going to be a fave of mine for how he played down the stretch in '07.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Staff (especially Zorn) almost always talk up their players to the press, whether they mean it or not.

An interesting exception was Allen's presser yesterday, in which he said of the guys being cut, "Many were good Redskins players." Which means some were not, in his estimation. He didn't name names but that is about as critical as you'll see from a FO person.

Exactly, coaches alway do this, in fact nobody was better at it than Saint Joe. Why badmouth your players when you can talk good about them and maybe generate some interest from another team who might give you something for him.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Ex-Redskins coach Jim Zorn reportedly wanted to cut QB Colt Brennan before the 2009 season started.
Brennan had a miserable 2009, playing poorly in three straight preseason games before landing on injured reserve with a torn labrum in his hip. He's also turned off some members of the organization with a cocky attitude (despite his lack of NFL success). Brennan isn't the quarterback of the future, and he may not make the team in

I must really suck at evaluating talent. I didn't think Colt did that bad. I thought he was better then Collins and honestly thought Chase Daniels had more accuracy then both Colt and JC. I was hoping we would keep Chase and give him a couple of years to learn, cut Collins prior to last year, and make Colt the #2. Instead Colt got injured, and Chase cut.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by irish

Exactly, coaches alway do this, in fact nobody was better at it than Saint Joe. Why badmouth your players when you can talk good about them and maybe generate some interest from another team who might give you something for him.

It's funny, when Joe was here and all you would hear is him saying it all rests on his shoulders fans would be all up in arms calling out the players saying Joe had nothing to do with how the players play on the field and Joe should just tell us fans who screwed up. I've heard this and read this during both terms. Then we pick up Zorn who calls out players in order to get them to perform and people complained about how he was airing all the laundry through the media, then the players got on board and all of a sudden it was taboo.

All I can remember is thinking how nice it was prior to the airing of the laundry and calling people out.

[DBUCHANON101]

This is coach who called the same bs play 2 times in a row. -swinging gate-

But like many have said there is a reason he is no longer here.... Shanny is running the show and as of now Colt is still on the roster. If he were cut then we could say something but id have to say i go with Shanahan over Zorn on talent evals.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

This is coach who called the same bs play 2 times in a row. -swinging gate-

But like many have said there is a reason he is no longer here.... Shanny is running the show and as of now Colt is still on the roster. If he were cut then we could say something but id have to say i go with Shanahan over Zorn on talent evals.

I am still talking to a therapist on how to effectively remove the Jim Zorn era from my memory.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I am still talking to a therapist on how to effectively remove the Jim Zorn era from my memory.

I think Steve Spurrier Era was worse than the Zorn Era. They both were terrible but at least Zorn's 1st year I thought we may have found a good new young HC. Boy that was short lived.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Collins had a solid tenure here, he's always going to be a fave of mine for how he played down the stretch in '07.

AMEN! I would take a well prepared PROFESSIONAL like Todd Collins as my backup QB over an immature, cocky Colt Brennan any day of the week. I was never a big fan of the Brennan selection. He had bloated numbers playing in a "Chuck and Duck" system in college. How many of those types ever amount to anything at the next level? 'Nuff said.

[SmootSmack]

We talked about a lot of this stuff last summer. That Zorn expected Colt to challenge Collins for the #2 job, was disappointed when he failed to. And now, that Colt's new attitude these past few months have impressed a lot of people after his first couple of years of arrogance

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

I think Steve Spurrier Era was worse than the Zorn Era. They both were terrible but at least Zorn's 1st year I thought we may have found a good new young HC. Boy that was short lived.

I don't know. Zorn inherited a team that was on a bit of a roll. Spurrier took over after a lot of crap went down. Equal records.

[SirClintonPortis]

I hope Collins goes to Baltimore to hang out with Zorn and Saunders.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Collins had a solid tenure here, he's always going to be a fave of mine for how he played down the stretch in '07.

People may think I am crazy but I truly believe this team would have won more games if Collins was the started during the two years that Saunders was here.

Sunny seemed to think we would have won more games last year with Collins as the starter. I guess we will never know...

It was great to be a Redskins fan during that run with Collins.

[GTripp0012]

Can we re-title this thread the "Warpath Cognitive Dissonance" thread?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Collins had a solid tenure here, he's always going to be a fave of mine for how he played down the stretch in '07.

Yeah, I think I've been unnecessarily harsh on Collins both before his success here, and after it, usually in response for someone propping him up to be something he isn't. But one thing that Collins absolutely was here was a great signing. I'd say that either he or Randle El was the second best signing of the 2006 offseason behind Carter. And he got a fraction of the money of the rest of them.

Terrible extension of course, the Redskins should have let him walk after 07 at his asking price, but excellent signing in 2006.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yeah, I think I've been unnecessarily harsh on Collins both before his success here, and after it, usually in response for someone propping him up to be something he isn't. But one thing that Collins absolutely was here was a great signing. I'd say that either he or Randle El was the second best signing of the 2006 offseason behind Carter. And he got a fraction of the money of the rest of them.

Terrible extension of course, the Redskins should have let him walk after 07 at his asking price, but excellent signing in 2006.

Now GTripp..I know.. that you know..that this is an open invitation to bash ARE...right?