Redskins-Bears, Best and Worst

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Come on now Matty, Donovan a Pro Bowl QB having to get up to speed? I am starting to understand why the Eagles took the gamble and traded him. He still looks like he has something left in the tank, but he is almost Brunell like.

He played in one offense for 11 years, and he's 7 games into this new offense, so an adjustment period has to be expected. Just saying it's nice to have a ground game to fall back on for now, but McNabb definitely needs to start picking up his game. Just a little premature to write him off as finished, or assume he's not going to get a new contract here, as some are suggesting.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

He played in one offense for 11 years, and he's 7 games into this new offense, so an adjustment period has to be expected. Just saying it's nice to have a ground game to fall back on for now, but McNabb definitely needs to start picking up his game. Just a little premature to write him off as finished, or assume he's not going to get a new contract here, as some are suggesting.

It's not unreasonable to give a guy a 5 or 6 game adjustment period. But, you know, McNabb turns 34 in November. He's gotten by on veteran guile to this point, keeping us in winnable games, but there's no reason to believe that we would have pulled the trigger on a trade where 1/2 of the way into the remainder of the contract, it's still a "learning experience."

Everyone realized that the only reason you pull the trigger on the trade is to win games in 2010. We're winning games, it's true, but the passing game is non-existent.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Come on now Matty, Donovan a Pro Bowl QB having to get up to speed? I am starting to understand why the Eagles took the gamble and traded him. He still looks like he has something left in the tank, but he is almost Brunell like.

He's not even close to Brunell like. And when you spend 11 years in one system it does take a while to get it going. If you are right-handed and all of a sudden I tell u to write with ur left, you wont be scoring A's in penmanship right off the bat are you?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

He's not even close to Brunell like. And when you spend 11 years in one system it does take a while to get it going. If you are right-handed and all of a sudden I tell u to write with ur left, you wont be scoring A's in penmanship right off the bat are you?

Not buying this system BS. Missing open wr's and throwing the pick for a TD has nothing to do with getting use to a new system.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

He's not even close to Brunell like. And when you spend 11 years in one system it does take a while to get it going. If you are right-handed and all of a sudden I tell u to write with ur left, you wont be scoring A's in penmanship right off the bat are you?

The Eagles offense was not that different from the offense McNabb is running now, so it really isn't a system thing. Donovan has been missing some wide open receivers.

Of course he has also been having a lot of his on target passes dropped as well. It is just going to take time.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

The Eagles offense was not that different from the offense McNabb is running now, so it really isn't a system thing. Donovan has been missing some wide open receivers.

Of course he has also been having a lot of his on target passes dropped as well. It is just going to take time.

There are probably similarities but overall more is probably different than not. The verbiage is different and so are the protections. Reid runs a more pure west coast offense with 3 step drops based on timing, get the ball out quick. Shanahan's system runs more off play action, with more 5-7 step drops.

[Jontrem]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

The Eagles offense was not that different from the offense McNabb is running now, so it really isn't a system thing. Donovan has been missing some wide open receivers.

Of course he has also been having a lot of his on target passes dropped as well. It is just going to take time.

McNabb has always been hit or miss. When we traded for him my brother in law told me I would love him but he would drive me crazy because of his tendencies to miss wide open receivers. To this point he was totally correct, I liek him extending plays and pushing the ball down the field, I hate him missing open WRs 10 yards down the field.

Oh well it is far better than having JC and at least we are fun to watch again! I'd watch these games just to watch Orakpo he's quickly becoming my favorite NFL'er

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Come on now Matty, Donovan a Pro Bowl QB having to get up to speed? I am starting to understand why the Eagles took the gamble and traded him. He still looks like he has something left in the tank, but he is almost Brunell like.

McNabb can still push the ball down the field with authority. Nothing is wrong with his arm.

[Big C]

best: deangelo hall, AH, and the rest of the defense

worst: mcnabb, o-line, playcalling to not help against the blitz/pass rush

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Armstrong also dropped a sure fire touchdown pass on a drive in the first quarter. It just seemed as though DMac was a little off all game. To much pressure perhaps, but he also led of to victory against the Pack when he faced the same kind of heat all day.

Like I said in another thread, to get a win when Donovan has a bad day is great. He may come out next week and just light the Bears up. Still stoked we have #5.

[MTK]

Yeah the drops certainly didn't help today.

[Defensewins]

Before an investigation is launched, I am the one that voted for Haynesworth....for shits and giggles. Clearly DHall is the man of the match, no question. I think it is clear though that Haynesworth can be a force and valuable to a team lacking DL anchor. It is now clear he should have played last week.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Before an investigation is launched, I am the one that voted for Haynesworth....for shits and giggles. Clearly DHall is the man of the match, no question. I think it is clear though that Haynesworth can be a force and valuable to a team lacking DL anchor. It is now clear he should have played last week.

Well it shows me that they aren't sitting him out saving him for a future trade for next season, or maybe they have decided to showcase h im after all. I hope they keep him around. Once his sack totals start to rack up, I think he will start to like it here.

[PWNED]

i wouldnt go that far. weve seen the type of throws that made us hate him in philly. doesnt matter the type of pro you are, it takes a while to get used to a new system.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by PWNED

i wouldnt go that far. weve seen the type of throws that made us hate him in philly. doesnt matter the type of pro you are, it takes a while to get used to a new system.

Yeah, but how complex is this new system? Can't be that hard if you are a vet like McNabb. Plus, it is the execution that is killing us, not just Donovan, but dropped passes, missed blocking assignments. It isn't just Donovan, but he is playing subpar for us.