Time to move up some practice squad players

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

USC WR that was drafted in 2009 on the 3rd round by the Dolphins.

Thanks SF! I remember that dude, he's tall & rangy as I recall.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

The season is on the brink of disaster and it's time for Shanahan and Allen to become creative. I think it time to make some roster changes and bring up a few practice squad guys. I feel the redskins are on the outside looking in on the youth movement in the NFL and changes need to be made.

I think they should move up James Davis, Terrance Austin and sign Patrick Turner from the Jets. They should cut Joey Galloway, Roydell Williams and Chad Simpson.

Although I’ve heard good things about Simpson he can never make it to the game day roster so he has to go. The others are self explanatory. We have to bring some youth and productivity to the skins.

What does the forum think? Would you make changes and if so who and why?

we can't cut galloway or r williams, they both run great routes and are amazing in practice and drills

on a serious note i would really like to see what austin can do in a real game. and i don't think it would be crazy to make a move like cutting galloway and bringing austin up. are we in the hunt for the playoffs right now, yes. do we really have anything to lose by cutting dead wieght like williams and galloway
and bringing someone else in, no.

seriously what would the big deal with having someone else besides galloway out there. can anyone name 3 meaningful plays galloway has made this year? i rest my case

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

we can't cut galloway or r williams, they both run great routes and are amazing in practice and drills

on a serious note i would really like to see what austin can do in a real game. and i don't think it would be crazy to make a move like cutting galloway and bringing austin up. are we in the hunt for the playoffs right now, yes. do we really have anything to lose by cutting dead wieght like williams and galloway
and bringing someone else in, no.

seriously what would the big deal with having someone else besides galloway out there. can anyone name 3 meaningful plays galloway has made this year? i rest my case

In Williams' defense; he's a bigger wr & he plays on kick coverage team. Don't think Austin would be good there due to his size.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

In Williams' defense; he's a bigger wr & he plays on kick coverage team. Don't think Austin would be good there due to his size.

Your right Austin is not very big but we need a 3rd WR that can make plays on offense with our teribble 3rd down conversion rate. Give me youth and and athelticsim over a vet that is washed up.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

we can't cut galloway or r williams, they both run great routes and are amazing in practice and drills

on a serious note i would really like to see what austin can do in a real game. and i don't think it would be crazy to make a move like cutting galloway and bringing austin up. are we in the hunt for the playoffs right now, yes. do we really have anything to lose by cutting dead wieght like williams and galloway
and bringing someone else in, no.

seriously what would the big deal with having someone else besides galloway out there. can anyone name 3 meaningful plays galloway has made this year? i rest my case

There was the time he gave up on a route and the ball was picked off, then there was the time he gave up on a route and the ball was picked off, and finally that time when he gave up on a route and the ball was picked off

[MTK]

Funny thing is Galloway was never known for his routes to begin with, he was always more of a speed guy on go routes.

At this point he's more than proven his worthlessness here. I too would like to see Austin, or just about anyone we've got not named Galloway.

[CultBrennan59]

I would put Cook up for montgomery
Cut galloway for austin
cut simpson for james davis

[CRedskinsRule]

I just want to see Banks run a few screens from the triple WR stack set. I am pretty sure he would break off a few.

[sportscurmudgeon]

There is a rather basic reason why there are players on the practice squad and other players on the active roster.

It's not all that complex but just in case it seems mysterious let me lay it out here:

The coaches - - the ones who see these guys in practice every day and the ones that are responsible for putting the team in the best position to win on a week-to-week basis - - think the guys on the practice squad are not as good as the guys on the active roster.

Now, if it is true that there are three or four guys on the practice squad who really are better than the guys on the active roster, then you have to indict the coaching staff and the guys who do "pro player evaluations" for the team for "getting it wrong".

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

The coaches - - the ones who see these guys in practice every day and the ones that are responsible for putting the team in the best position to win on a week-to-week basis - - think the guys on the practice squad are not as good as the guys on the active roster.

Now, if it is true that there are three or four guys on the practice squad who really are better than the guys on the active roster, then you have to indict the coaching staff and the guys who do "pro player evaluations" for the team for "getting it wrong".

Based on that idea we would have never have seen Ryan Torian or Anthony Armstrong, who where both practice squad players. There are other reasons why some players don't make it to the active squad... Draft position, contract, etc. There is no reason that Jon Beck shouldn't be a Practice squad guy, other then his draft status and contract. I think these moves would help the team move forward. not back...

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Based on that idea we would have never have seen Ryan Torian or Anthony Armstrong, who where both practice squad players. There are other reasons why some players don't make it to the active squad... Draft position, contract, etc. There is no reason that Jon Beck shouldn't be a Practice squad guy, other then his draft status and contract. I think these moves would help the team move forward. not back...

Good point. K. Williams was on the PS a while too. Shanny has made somewhat erratic decisions w/moving players on & off the PS.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Based on that idea we would have never have seen Ryan Torian or Anthony Armstrong, who where both practice squad players. There are other reasons why some players don't make it to the active squad... Draft position, contract, etc. There is no reason that Jon Beck shouldn't be a Practice squad guy, other then his draft status and contract. I think these moves would help the team move forward. not back...

Based on his time in Miami I don't believe Beck is PS eligible.

a player cannot participate on the practice squad for more than three seasons, or if he has accrued a year of NFL experience (six or more games on a club's 53-man active roster or official Injured Reserve list.) If the player was on the active list for fewer than 9 games during their "only Accrued Season(s)", he maintains his eligibility for the practice squad.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

There is a rather basic reason why there are players on the practice squad and other players on the active roster.

It's not all that complex but just in case it seems mysterious let me lay it out here:

The coaches - - the ones who see these guys in practice every day and the ones that are responsible for putting the team in the best position to win on a week-to-week basis - - think the guys on the practice squad are not as good as the guys on the active roster.

Now, if it is true that there are three or four guys on the practice squad who really are better than the guys on the active roster, then you have to indict the coaching staff and the guys who do "pro player evaluations" for the team for "getting it wrong".

It's not so much that the practice squad players are not as good as the active roster players, it's that the active roster players have more experience and can pick up the offensive plays a lot quicker than someone wide eyed and straight out of college. It's quit possible that the practice squad players at this point in the season are ready to play.

I too would love to see Austin brought up. We could get younger rather quickly if our practice squad players can contribute.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

There is a rather basic reason why there are players on the practice squad and other players on the active roster.

It's not all that complex but just in case it seems mysterious let me lay it out here:

The coaches - - the ones who see these guys in practice every day and the ones that are responsible for putting the team in the best position to win on a week-to-week basis - - think the guys on the practice squad are not as good as the guys on the active roster.

Now, if it is true that there are three or four guys on the practice squad who really are better than the guys on the active roster, then you have to indict the coaching staff and the guys who do "pro player evaluations" for the team for "getting it wrong".

This relies on the idea that the coaches are always right. I'm not saying we know more then the coaches, far from it, but I see this reasoning often. If coaches were always right they wouldn't get fired nearly as often as they do today. In fact one of the more common reasons as to why coaches get fired is misuse of personnel.

They're human, they make mistakes. It's more then possible that a guy like Austin deserves to be on the roster more then Galloway, yet some other factor besides talent could be serving as the difference between who's active and whos on the squad. In this case I think that Shanahan has simply wanted to make sure theres a veteran presence in the receiving corps. However after Mondays performance that could all be nothing more then a moot point.

Personally I'd like to find out if Austin can play. I don't want the team to have to look into wasting another early draft pick on what might be the second hardest position to project at the NFL level. Wide Receiver.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

There is a rather basic reason why there are players on the practice squad and other players on the active roster.

It's not all that complex but just in case it seems mysterious let me lay it out here:

The coaches - - the ones who see these guys in practice every day and the ones that are responsible for putting the team in the best position to win on a week-to-week basis - - think the guys on the practice squad are not as good as the guys on the active roster.

Now, if it is true that there are three or four guys on the practice squad who really are better than the guys on the active roster, then you have to indict the coaching staff and the guys who do "pro player evaluations" for the team for "getting it wrong".

You mean like Anthony Armstrong was on PS last season now he is 2nd wr and deep threat. I guess Zorn did not know talent either.