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Re: Close Only Counts In Horseshoes and Hand Grenades
"That which is past and gone is irrevocable, wise men have more to do with time and things yet to come".
somebody just made that up.
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Re: Close Only Counts In Horseshoes and Hand Grenades
I think the thing that makes it worse is our overall draft ineptitude for a long time. Yes, Rodgers, would have been nice, but alot of teams missed. Barring the last 2 drafts, our drafts have been disasters though as that's what makes you mad.
But, hey, we've got a GM now and a good coach. I think we'll do alot better in the coming years. GB, though, has done it right. If you look at their draft history for say the last 5 years, they pick up at a minimum of 2 solid players each draft on average. That's two starters at a minimum. Sure, they've had some misses too, but when you have 8-10 picks on average you can miss some. I'm a firm believer if you want to be successful, you've got to first look to see what the successful ones are doing. I think our new GM knows this. |
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Re: Close Only Counts In Horseshoes and Hand Grenades
Watch what the PAtriots will do in this next Draft, and how young and fast they will get. With Brady still there as their field general, they will be right back to 13-3 or 14-2 next year. It stinks!
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Re: Close Only Counts In Horseshoes and Hand Grenades
Eh, F them. I hope they continue to come close to the SB but get bounced in the playoffs. Bellichik is a f'ing prick and I hope they never make it back to the SB. Hopefully the curse of Adam Vinitieri continues.
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Re: Close Only Counts In Horseshoes and Hand Grenades
I skimmed through these posts and there seems to be quite a few people saying that Aaron Rodgers is a "system quarterback." IMO this couldn't be further from the truth. He is a winner. You can take your tom brady and peyton manning, I'll take Aaron Rodgers any day of the week. He is deadly accurate, has great vision, has a quick release, is tall enough to see over the line, makes quick reads and decision, and can sling it with zip just like those guys. The difference in my mind that makes Rodgers better than anyone in the league is his athleticism, confidence, fearlessness, and pocket awareness. Watch him in the pocket, he is absolutely amazing at evading the rush and getting the throw off no matter who is about to hit him. He is a playmaker and a winner. He is tom brady mixed with ben roethelssberger. I also love how he doesn't ream out his receivers when they drop half his passes. He lets them know he believes in them and throw right back at them.
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Re: Close Only Counts In Horseshoes and Hand Grenades
We could probably start 100's of what if threads with draft picks along with every other team. Looking back and saying what if is not very healthy in life.
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It is not healthy to swell on the past or to begin to think that "others are out to get you" based on your own mistakes, but looking at what you did in the past - - both right AND wrong - - is important. It is how you learn...
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However, Gibbs made the decision and he is not around to "learn." I'm not sure that your philosophy meets this situation from the past.
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Re: Close Only Counts In Horseshoes and Hand Grenades
I don't want to turn this into any more of a JC thread than it already is, just want to take up for Gibbs on this one. Would he have drafted Rodgers if he was still there? Who knows, but we do know that he liked JC. He drafted a qb that fit his system & was a high character kid. Did it turn out the way he envisioned? Of course not, but JC was avg. & Gibbs won a super bowl w/a guy that most would say was below avg. - Rypien.
If Gibbs & Saunders had stayed around a little longer, that draft would be easier to evaluate. Regardless, I give Gibbs credit for making the move at the time. It was something that needed to be done. |
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![]() I'm sure he appreciated their character but I HIGHLY doubt he based his draft board on their church attendance. Sean Taylor had some issues early on, as did others. Gibbs was more of a mentor than a judge.
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Of course I'm not saying its the end all be all in Gibb's book, but listening to Gibbs speak over the years I do get a strong impression this factor is significant in picking his QB. I think he liked JC too much to draft anybody else. Just because most people might not value faith as highly when choosing a quarterback, doesn't mean Gibbs doesn't. |
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![]() We've gone down this road so many times...every season...and yet, it still ends with the same conclusion..."so what?" Every team, even the 2010 Packers have these scenarios and unwarranted regrets. I'm sure teams needing safeties have said "we were one pick away from Sean Taylor or LaRon Landry". Look at all of the teams probably regretting letting Orakpo go by on the draft board....who would have imagined he'd fall all the way to us at #13? How is Andre Smith working out with the Bengals. Heyward-Bey? 25 teams passed on Clay Matthews. 21 teams let Percy Harvin go by them. Even Michael Oher is better than the 23rd pick he was taken with. Every team has these scenarios in every draft. Pointless thread is pointless.
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Re: Close Only Counts In Horseshoes and Hand Grenades
Yea JC wasnt any where near the answer but i appreciate Joe gibbs idea. Rodgers would have been cool but too late. Yea i hope they want our number one pick too. How old is Brady. I kinda want him to retire now lol
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