Hard Decisions: The solution to the $18MM offseason puzzle

[GTripp0012]

2nd round tender on Jackson, original round tender on Paulsen and on Young. No tender on Banks or Baker. Used $5.1 million in cap space.

Fletcher waived/retired, Hall waived/released, Carriker waived/released, Meriweather waived/released. Saves $15.5 million in cap.

Josh Morgan released with a June 1st designation, saving $3.3 million on the cap.

Lichtensteiger re-signed five years, $21 million, $5.5 million guaranteed for skill, cap, and injury. Five year deal with a player void option after year 3. (Cap number $1.9 million)

Adam Jones signed, 2 yrs/$8 million, with $3.5 million guaranteed for skill, and cap, but two full years for injury. Five year deal with a player void option after two years (cap number: $2.5 million)

Greg Toler signed, 5 yrs/$28 million, with $9.75 million guaranteed for injury, skill, and cap, and an additional $3 million for injury. (Cap number: $3.25 million).

Claim Rolando McClain off waivers from Oakland and immediately restructure contact, converting base salary in 2013 to a signing bonus amortized over five years (but voiding after year two) (Cap number: $2.1 million).

Fred Davis re-signed for 1 year/$2.25 million.

Total pre draft cap savings: $18.8 million
Total pre draft cap savings: $16.85 million

Note that there would still be contract restructuring in order to stay under the cap, with having to add in the ballpark of 12 contracts to the payroll through the draft etc. But these moves fix most of the issues, leaving only safety for the draft.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

2nd round tender on Jackson, original round tender on Paulsen and on Young. No tender on Banks or Baker. Used $5.1 million in cap space.

Fletcher waived/retired, Hall waived/released, Carriker waived/released, Meriweather waived/released. Saves $15.5 million in cap.

Josh Morgan released with a June 1st designation, saving $3.3 million on the cap.

Lichtensteiger re-signed five years, $21 million, $5.5 million guaranteed for skill, cap, and injury. Five year deal with a player void option after year 3. (Cap number $1.9 million)

Adam Jones signed, 2 yrs/$8 million, with $3.5 million guaranteed for skill, and cap, but two full years for injury. Five year deal with a player void option after two years (cap number: $2.5 million)

Greg Toler signed, 5 yrs/$28 million, with $9.75 million guaranteed for injury, skill, and cap, and an additional $3 million for injury. (Cap number: $3.25 million).

Claim Rolando McClain off waivers from Oakland and immediately restructure contact, converting base salary in 2013 to a signing bonus amortized over five years (but voiding after year two) (Cap number: $2.1 million).

Fred Davis re-signed for 1 year/$2.25 million.

Total pre draft cap savings: $18.8 million
Total pre draft cap savings: $16.85 million

Note that there would still be contract restructuring in order to stay under the cap, with having to add in the ballpark of 12 contracts to the payroll through the draft etc. But these moves fix most of the issues, leaving only safety for the draft.

Are you rolling with Hankerson as your #2?

Jones is interesting but I'm not sure I trust him. It probably makes the most sense for him and the Bengals if he stays there.

Toler is on our radar from what I've heard.

Not sure I like McClain's off the field drama.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Adam Jones signed, 2 yrs/$8 million, with $3.5 million guaranteed for skill, and cap, but two full years for injury. Five year deal with a player void option after two years (cap number: $2.5 million)

Claim Rolando McClain off waivers from Oakland and immediately restructure contact, converting base salary in 2013 to a signing bonus amortized over five years (but voiding after year two) (Cap number: $2.1 million).

I'd like to think that you're just kidding. These two people are nothing but trouble of the worst kind. I don't think the Redskins should have anything to do with either of them, much less both of them. I think the Skins need to rebuild with good people who are likely to be around for awhile.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I'd like to think that you're just kidding. These two people are nothing but trouble of the worst kind. I don't think the Redskins should have anything to do with either of them, much less both of them. I think the Skins need to rebuild with good people who are likely to be around for awhile.

He's not. And call me crazy, but I wouldn't mind pac man and I would certainly love to have Rolando here.

The reason why pac mans name is being thrown around is because he quietly had one of the best seasons a CB had this year in the league.

Rolando, I think he just needs a change of scenary and leadership which I still think this team will have with or without Fletcher (Orakpo, Cofield, RG3). I think that if Rolando came here he'd be indetical to what Brandon Spikes is in New England (an occasional controversial tweet or hit on the field, but nothing major) than what he is in Oakland, with poor coaching and being in the wrong system with other players that are out of control could care less about winning, more about that paycheck, kind of guys.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

He's not. And call me crazy, but I wouldn't mind pac man and I would certainly love to have Rolando here.

The reason why pac mans name is being thrown around is because he quietly had one of the best seasons a CB had this year in the league.

Rolando, I think he just needs a change of scenary and leadership which I still think this team will have with or without Fletcher (Orakpo, Cofield, RG3). I think that if Rolando came here he'd be indetical to what Brandon Spikes is in New England (an occasional controversial tweet or hit on the field, but nothing major) than what he is in Oakland, with poor coaching and being in the wrong system with other players that are out of control could care less about winning, more about that paycheck, kind of guys.

CB, you know I've complimented you on some of your posts, but you are way off the mark on this one.

You want to find out if these two knuckleheads will behave if they are in a better environment with grown-up teammates to babysit them? I think that's much too risky under our current circumstances. We only have a limited amount to spend in FA and I'd rather not take a chance on these miscreants.

[Lotus]

One thing that has made Shanahan (reasonably) successful so far in his Skins tenure is collecting high-character guys for the roster and letting those of lesser character leave. To bring in Pacman and/or McClain would run counter to this method.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

CB, you know I've complimented you on some of your posts, but you are way off the mark on this one.

You want to find out if these two knuckleheads will behave if they are in a better environment with grown-up teammates to babysit them? I think that's much too risky under our current circumstances. We only have a limited amount to spend in FA and I'd rather not take a chance on these miscreants.

To respond to yours and lotus's posts at once, shanahan has taken risks on players with bad character in the past (Brandon Marshall, Maurice clarette, Trent Williams, bill romanowski to name a few).

I'm not going to argue about pacman. He's F'ed up enough.

Rolando, he's had two notable run ins with the law recently. But back in college and his other year in the pros he was clean. I feel like he may be a guy that like I said needs a change of scenery.

He's worth a 7th rounder and a conditional pick that can escalade if he performs well.

[GTripp0012]

I'm more interested in seeing what people are willing to spend this offseason. Matty's plan requires us to open about $12 mil in cap room, but mine requires almost $17 million.

[GTripp0012]

On McClain, the market for 3-4 inside backers is a huge sellers market this year. Huge. The fact that there is a 24 year old one who will hit the market at some point this year and can (but wont be) be claimed is really helpful to a team like the Redskins, who can just free up cap space and plug and play. His cap number is higher than Fletcher's but the difference is you can restrcture his contract easy, fletcher is too tricky to restructure because of the retirement card.

[CultBrennan59]

The only thing I can guarantee, is that no matter we all say we should do on this thread or what we throw out there, we always do a move or two of complete shock.

How many of us predicted we'd sign Garcon at this point last year. My memories kind of faded, but I don't remember SS saying we'd get him or we were even interested in him at this point last year.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

The only thing I can guarantee, is that no matter we all say we should do on this thread or what we throw out there, we always do a move or two of complete shock.

How many of us predicted we'd sign Garcon at this point last year. My memories kind of faded, but I don't remember SS saying we'd get him or we were even interested in him at this point last year.

Yeah, I love it. Under Snyderrato we'd go after the same obvious guy talked about on ESPN that 31 other teams had interest in. And we'd get him (by hideously overpaying).

Now, Shanallen are more "under the radar". Finding hidden gems. Pretty big difference in hype between signing Pierrre Garcon and signing guys like Vincent Jackson, Colston or Manningham.

Now if only Garcon can stay healthy. Last season we were 9-2 with him, and 1-5 without him.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

The only thing I can guarantee, is that no matter we all say we should do on this thread or what we throw out there, we always do a move or two of complete shock.

How many of us predicted we'd sign Garcon at this point last year. My memories kind of faded, but I don't remember SS saying we'd get him or we were even interested in him at this point last year.

Said it in February if not sooner. Said Garcon, Golston, and Royal were on our radar. With Garcon the priority. Had no clue about Morgan and guess I was wrong about Golston.

This year was a lot tougher to tell. Biggers I knew we had interest, but he wasn't a priority. There was no clear cut #1 target for us it seemed.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Said it in February if not sooner. Said Garcon, Golston, and Royal were on our radar. With Garcon the priority. Had no clue about Morgan and guess I was wrong about Golston.

This year was a lot tougher to tell. Biggers I knew we had interest, but he wasn't a priority. There was no clear cut #1 target for us it seemed.

Really? Cause I could have sworn that you were mentioning Royal w/ his Shanahan connection and Josh Morgan because he was a young guy that was from this area. Interesting.

Btw, random thought, but did you search "ss" to find this post or are you just reading through all the threads you've missed?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Really? Cause I could have sworn that you were mentioning Royal w/ his Shanahan connection and Josh Morgan because he was a young guy that was from this area. Interesting.

Btw, random thought, but did you search "ss" to find this post or are you just reading through all the threads you've missed?

No, SFRedskin said he liked Morgan. I never suspected he was on our radar in any way

The latter

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Really? Cause I could have sworn that you were mentioning Royal w/ his Shanahan connection and Josh Morgan because he was a young guy that was from this area. Interesting.

Btw, random thought, but did you search "ss" to find this post or are you just reading through all the threads you've missed?

You used your dark powers to summon SmootSmack's return and now you dare to question his wisdom!? Have you gone mad, boy?!