Skins v Eagles post game thread

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Bad...first half, run defense(but damn Mccoy is a beast), Rambo looked not just like a rookie but a liability, penalties, missed fg, Kerrigan concussion, the safety.

Good...Second half, Griff looked sharp and the shot of him on the bench in the midst of the comeback shaking his head just screamed "ok im ready now", Hank, Kai's kickoffs. edit..HELU

Bottom line is that when your star player isnt playing like one it is going to infect the entire team - the D gets tired and frustrated, the run game doesnt work rite, the wr's get dejected, but as soon as Griff found his rythym mid way through the third quarter it energized the entire team. I am still just as confident that this team is going places this year as I was at 7:14 pm tonite. I am completely chalking that up to a warm up game for Griff - I wanted them to put in KC and give us a chance to win, but in retrospect now, I am happy they let RG-3 work out the kinks because the next 15 games greatly outweigh week one. HTTR

Well I would say Philly started to play a little prevent too. Griff did not play well at all. It was almost like the Eagles knew he wasn't running so they just blitzed.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well I would say Philly started to play a little prevent too. Griff did not play well at all. It was almost like the Eagles knew he wasn't running so they just blitzed.

Lack of an effective running play led to the Iggles be all blitz happy.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Lack of an effective running play led to the Iggles be all blitz happy.

Yeah, playing from behind typically means the pass rush is going to tee off on you.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Lack of an effective running play led to the Iggles be all blitz happy.

I just think they knew Griff wasn't a threat to run. They were not respecting any of our play action at all.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I just think they knew Griff wasn't a threat to run. They were not respecting any of our play action at all.

As Gruden pointed out, that stuff doesn't work so well when you're down 33-7.

[drumkat44]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I just think they knew Griff wasn't a threat to run. They were not respecting any of our play action at all.

Exactly!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Lack of an effective running play led to the Iggles be all blitz happy.

I don't think that was the running game so much as we just weren't picking up the LBs for the first three quarters.

Our protection schemes were the problem. The Eagles DC clearly put in a ton of hours over the offseason into understanding how we liked to block our passes and that preparation resulted in a lot of clean runs on RG3.

Only wish our defense would have found some sort of advantage given 8 months to find one.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't think that was the running game so much as we just weren't picking up the LBs for the first three quarters.

Our protection schemes were the problem. The Eagles DC clearly put in a ton of hours over the offseason into understanding how we liked to block our passes and that preparation resulted in a lot of clean runs on RG3.

Only wish our defense would have found some sort of advantage given 8 months to find one.

Kind of hard when their is no tape on how the opponent's offense will look in the Pros.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't think that was the running game so much as we just weren't picking up the LBs for the first three quarters.

Our protection schemes were the problem. The Eagles DC clearly put in a ton of hours over the offseason into understanding how we liked to block our passes and that preparation resulted in a lot of clean runs on RG3.

Only wish our defense would have found some sort of advantage given 8 months to find one.

Our defense didnt have anything to look at regarding the Eagles team. Once they did in the second half we allowed 5 first downs. The Eagles won't be a surprise much the second half:

The Eagles have had four years to watch our team's offense.

I saw that we had a problem not calling the proper protections in the second half. Using Griff as just a pocket passer is a waste of his talents. He started to be able to feel the rush in the second half and use his game to make off scheduled plays. This team doesn't scare me.

We still have the opportunity to be very good.

[skinsfan69]

We were soundly beat by a better team. Let's give credit here to the Eagles. I think this entire town overlooked Philly and forgot how good McCoy is. How good Michael Vick can still be. He's really in the perfect offense and really made some nice passes. But what surprised me most was their total disrespect for our offense. They blitzed us constantly.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We were soundly beat by a better team. Let's give credit here to the Eagles. I think this entire town overlooked Philly and forgot how good McCoy is. How good Michael Vick can still be. He's really in the perfect offense and really made some nice passes. But what surprised me most was their total disrespect for our offense. They blitzed us constantly.

And Kyle never came up with a solid counter, such as rolling Griffin out, or throwing more screen passes. I was incredibly disappointed by the offensive game plan. Don't expect other teams to respect Griffin as a threat to run until he proves that he can hurt the opposing D with his legs.

[WillH]

I had a feeling that they would have RG3 play conservatively within the pocket to start, but I didn't anticipate him struggling like he did. It wasn't until he started playing loose and moving around that he started playing like himself. I don't mean to suggest that he can't play from the pocket, but perhaps it s just too new to him, and he is too much in his head trying to find the balance between running wild and being immobile. He'll find it, and I really hope he does soon.

[HailGreen28]

So is Griffin's knee still hurt, or is it psychological?

And he was getting killed in the pocket. One of those slams was straight out of WWE.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

So is Griffin's knee still hurt, or is it psychological?

And he was getting killed in the pocket. One of those slams was straight out of WWE.

At least he didn't get slammed in the knee or head. He'll be sore as h*ll but ready to rock on Sunday.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by WillH

I had a feeling that they would have RG3 play conservatively within the pocket to start, but I didn't anticipate him struggling like he did. It wasn't until he started playing loose and moving around that he started playing like himself. I don't mean to suggest that he can't play from the pocket, but perhaps it s just too new to him, and he is too much in his head trying to find the balance between running wild and being immobile. He'll find it, and I really hope he does soon.

If they werent going to use the read option often (and I think they called it about 3-4 times the whole game) and they were going to keep RG3 in the pocket to protect him (which they did the whole game), they should have spread it out and thrown it around in the first half. The under center run game protects RG3, but it plays right into Philadelphia's hands, as it mitigates the talent discrepancy on the field.

Philadelphia is going to have a lot more room to overcome mistakes the whole season because they run so many damn plays. As long as Shanny is our coach and Kelly is theirs, we're going to be at a schematic disadvantage. So we needed to take advantage of having a lot more talent than them and try to get Bradley Fletcher and Patrick Chung covering Hankerson & Robinson down the field, we simply didn't do that.

Helu is a really good player in the Redskins spread offense concepts. Really strong picking up the blitz. Can win one on ones on the outside as a receiver. If Morris starts like he did tonight, we can roll with Helu and the passing game in the future. Changing the RB was the single best offensive adjustment we made in the game, and allowed us to take advantage of the mismatches we had all over the field. Only problem was, we were too slow with the adjustment.