Skins vs Packers post game thread

[donofriose]

Only about 11 percent of teams that have started 0-2 have made the playoffs. Of course two of those teams were the 07 giants and the 01 pats and both of those teams won the Super Bowl.

There is a lot to still figure out for the Redskins to even contend for a playoff spot. Shanahan cannot go 4-12 or 5-11 and expect to keep his job. He needs to at least be in it until the end. Luckily the NFC East isn't the greatest conference in the NFL so the Skins should be in it until the end.

[Meks]

I dont think rg3 is 100%it ... i dont at all... i also will blame poor play calling on BOTH sides of the ball.. we got lucky it wasnt 31-0fine at halftime with a effing 7 yd cushion on a 3rdT and goal from the 9!!!!! Etf?? Plenty of drops, poor coverage not looking AT THE BALL AT ALL... secondary is a MAJOR achilles heel here... they couldn't cover a bed as housekeepers.n. f*ck... ee got beat uo amd down the field all day... defense was PITIFULL after the 1stend quarter and i blame playcalling just as.much as the players ... smfh I'm embarrassed after this loss... flat out embarrassed

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Just drives me CRAZY how many team highs/career highs are set against the Skins. Arggggggh. NOW, the silver lining is that both Eagles/Cowboys lost (and hopefully the Giants). If we can get some rhythm next week and get a win, then I'll feel a lot more positive. More of the same next week and I can't even comprehend how we went from this good to this bad.

[CultBrennan59]

This team has many problems.

Alf's rookie magic has worn off.

RG3 is being limited. Sadly, we need that Read Option and RG3 running it to go back to being a good offense. Teams know, worry about Morris, then on passing downs, just play pass and don't worry about RG3 running it.

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Defensively, we got shreded today by the best QB in the NFL. Cobb killed us like I thought he would, but I was thinking Amerson would hold up better against Jordy Nelson, Ditto for DHall on James Jones. I was wrong about that. This team is doing piss poor at maintaining and staying in their gaps. Too many DLineman are getting pushed around by 'good' and bad Offensive Lines.

The tackling is also a Major issue. I understand giving long wrongs to LeSean McCoy, because he's shifty and elusive as hell. But James STARKS?!? He looked like Adrian Peterson today.

London Fletcher; I've loved having him on our team for the past 6 seasons, but it should have ended there. London is lost. London is gone. London just disappears. I used to hear his name all the time. I heard his name once today and it was after a big run. That Finley TD, that was London. Last year it was London getting beat by TE's in the passing game. This year its London getting man handled by OLineman, missing tackles, getting beat in coverage by more than just TE's. Translation, he's done. London was thinking really hard this past offseason about retiring and came back. He should have retired, because I'd rather have a young MLB back their making mistakes and learning than an old Vet who is getting owned throughout the game.


I will say this though about the defense. As horrible and not top 10 looking as they are, they still would give us times throughout the game for our offense to go out there and score. Problem is that the offense goes 3 and out and our defense, already tired and gased, has to go out and get beaten up for another score. Last year our defense was making stops and our offense was moving and working the clock. Not this year. And this team and this season will not do anything until the offense gets going (and I'm talking about early in a game, not garbage time).

[TheMalcolmConnection]

D played great until that 4th down completion for a TD. That just CRUSHED our momentum/confidence. After that, we sacked Rogers MAYBE 1-2 more times the rest of the game?

[NC_Skins]

I'll describe my feelings in a song.

[12thMan]

The D played well. They got no help from the offense until the game was way out of reach. Tempo and rhythm is everything in the NFL.

That said, way too premature to write of the season. We could limp into the bye-week and still make this competitive.

Bright Spots:

Trent Williams
Ryan Kerrigan
Pierre Garcon

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The D played well. They got no help from the offense until the game was way out of reach. Tempo and rhythm is everything in the NFL.

That said, way too premature to write of the season. We could limp into the bye-week and still make this competitive.

Bright Spots:

Trent Williams
Ryan Kerrigan
Pierre Garcon

The d played well? Are you smoking crack?

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The D played well. They got no help from the offense until the game was way out of reach. Tempo and rhythm is everything in the NFL.

That said, way too premature to write of the season. We could limp into the bye-week and still make this competitive.

Bright Spots:

Trent Williams
Ryan Kerrigan
Pierre Garcon

I agree that it's still premature, but they need to improve a lot and quickly.

I disagree that the defense played well. I don't think they did. Yes, they played well early with some stops and sacks, but played really poorly the entire game in coverage and tackling. The only one that played well the entire game, but became a nonfactor late (because they were down by so much) was Kerrigan. They really need to do something with the quick hitch routes that gets the receivers and running back on the edges and in open space.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The D played well. They got no help from the offense until the game was way out of reach.

The D played well? They gave up over 300 yards passing in the first half alone. Beyond the first two drives from Green Bay, this defense folded like a cheap tent. Haslett and his defense looked lost out there today.

Yes, the offense didn't do shit YET again to help our defense out, but they have to do much better than what they allowed here. Granted, the 49ers have a stout defense and still gave up points to GB last week.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

The D played well? They gave up over 300 yards passing in the first half alone. Beyond the first two drives from Green Bay, this defense folded like a cheap tent. Haslett and his defense looked lost out there today.

Yes, the offense didn't do shit YET again to help our defense out, but they have to do much better than what they allowed here. Granted, the 49ers have a stout defense and still gave up points to GB last week.

All the predictions about Haslett not being all that great compared to his peers were right. I can't fault our FO since they did try addressing the secondary, but man our back four sucked today. Rodgers did have a lot to do with that.

[NC_Skins]

SPeaking of Haslett. It's about game adjustments. Notice this:

‏@Russellmania980

Ryan Kerrigan said that after first three sacks and first 3 drives. .#Packers were almost always 3 step drop for Rodgers


So after those first three sacks, GB's adjusted to get the ball out of Rodgers hands faster. (explains Kerrigan/Orakpo's disappearance)Those side passes and WR screens ate us up. Did our DC adjust? Nope.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

SPeaking of Haslett. It's about game adjustments. Notice this:

‏@Russellmania980

Ryan Kerrigan said that after first three sacks and first 3 drives. .#Packers were almost always 3 step drop for Rodgers


So after those first three sacks, GB's adjusted to get the ball out of Rodgers hands faster. Those side passes and WR screens ate us up. Did our DC adjust? Nope.

Funny cuz I was about to say that. And when those quick passes that are caught within 5 yards from the line of scrimmage, go for 10 or more yards- there's nothing else the defense can do. The only thing that they NEED to do is make the tackles.

They need to start or focus on tackling drills in practice.

[Evilgrin]

This offensive line is not built to pass block, and it showed when Green Bay was trying to get pressure in the first half. They cannot pass protect against a good rush, not as a unit. However, I think it's probably good long term for Griff to face this now and start learning to beat it.

[warriorzpath]

The main problems with the offense are - RGIII not being sharp on passes and there are too many dropped and tipped passes for incompletions/interceptions. Maybe it's because they don't see tight coverage in practice because the Redskins dbs suck in practice and the receivers aren't used to seeing tight coverage that they get in the game.

The Redskins dbs don't give them the work that the receivers need. And when they get in the game, it's a lot harder. And at times, RGIII looks like he puts too much on the short passes.