In A Perfect NFL World.....

[joethiesmanfan]

true that's true people like Terrell Owens got the eagles in a bind because they cant cut him and he knows this. Maybe readjusting the cap we have can work or something?

[skinsguy]

Joetheismanfan:

I think you and I are kind of saying the samething, at least by how I am interpreting it. The only thing I am unclear on is, I had always felt that it was the contract that tied the team and the player together, and not so much a salary cap. I mean, going by what a contract is, a binding agreement, regardless of a presence or absense of a salary cap the team could not simply cut a player unless there was some language in that contract that said the team held the right to cut a player if he chose not to honor his side of the agreement.

With that said, with or without a cap, I woudn't believe a team could cut a player and not have to still pay him the remainder of his guaranteed money of his contract. I could be wrong on that, but I had just assumed that the salary cap was nothing more than a budget that each team could not exceed each season.

True, I think every policy put in place is going to have its pros and cons, but the way things are going right now, I see this agent stuff as being too much of a distraction among players and teams. It henders teams preparations during the offseason - which can in turn have an effect on the team's performance during the season.

But...all really I am concerned with is teams getting the most out of the players they pay for - not so much handicapping the player's finances long term.

[joethiesmanfan]

I am concerned with teams having to make this delicate balance with this salary cap and then bam some T.O. comes along and knocks the house of cards down. Maybe restructure contracts so they get paid by the day if you not here this day thats another 10 g's gone.. wanna go to the U miss three weeks let's see that will be 300,000 in checks you just missed. if you here you get paid if you not here you dont get paid. I guess i agree skins guy incentive based would work better. but i hate not being able to let Coles go without an 8 million dollar cap hit.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I am concerned with teams having to make this delicate balance with this salary cap and then bam some T.O. comes along and knocks the house of cards down. Maybe restructure contracts so they get paid by the day if you not here this day thats another 10 g's gone.. wanna go to the U miss three weeks let's see that will be 300,000 in checks you just missed. if you here you get paid if you not here you dont get paid. I guess i agree skins guy incentive based would work better. but i hate not being able to let Coles go without an 8 million dollar cap hit.

I agree 100% with you! That's why I say, just get rid of the salary cap altogether. I haven't really seen it to be THAT great - it only handicaps teams that have the money to pay the players. I mean, I don't really think of teams in terms of big market and small market teams. They all have the opportunity to make money through merchandising, sell of tickets, etc... why punish the teams that appear to make more money?

Dont' get me wrong, I'm all for making the NFL as competitive as possible - which is why I had suggested a probation period for rookies. They still have opportunities to improve their pay through their play in the probation period, and the teams will benefit from these rookies' efforts. Now, I am in no way suggesting that rookies who have big contracts don't put forth the effort - but I hear so many times of players not "living up to the contract." This would only ensure the player is worth what he gives to the team. I don't see this as necessarily a richer team having the advantage over teams that aren't as rich. If that was an issue, then as what others have suggested and I agree with would be to set a cap on the salary of the player. However, getting the player's union to agree with that would be like me getting the opportunity to date Natile Portman!

[Hijinx]

Someone forgot in a perfect world the Skins would have won the last 5 superbowls.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

Someone forgot in a perfect world the Skins would have won the last 5 superbowls.

LOL!!!! How could we have overlooked that? And each year - we blew out the Cowboys in the NFC Championship game 56 - 0!

[ChounsMan]

I would love to see a Rookie Mandatory Salary for at least 2 seasons. So this way the youngsters get into camp & actually learn & then earn.

[Defensewins]

Skinsguy,
I agree with your idea, I have always wanted the NFL players contracts to be heavily incentive based. That way nobody gets hurt, especailly the underpaid players.
The only problem I see with your suggestion is there amy be some anti-trust issues. Like most professional leagues in the country, they tread in a very gray area coming very close to collusion.