Plusses and Minuses vs. Ravens

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Watched the replay today...

Preston smith...I read in camp, practice he struggles but damn he shows up the game.
Ryan grant, crowder and Ross. Our wideout depth is great...I would try to move Roberts. Green Bay, Carolina, etc.
Chris baker and jeffcoat looking good.
To me the bigger controversy should be the starting rb position. Matt jones is better than Alfmo. I saw it camp and I've seen it in preseason game.

Kirk was aight...nothing special but better than rg3.

Let's see Jones in the regular season before we crown him. Morris has three years of proven production here. I didn't like the Jones pick at first, but he's winning me over. Just want to see it over a period of time in the regular season.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Dude give it up. For whatever reason, the football people at Redskin Park want to move on from Griffin. They see him up close everyday. You don't. For all of Gruden's faults, he's played the position, as has Matt Cavanaugh. Don't you think they know a capable qb when they see one??? I'm going to trust that they know what they're doing.

In what way is this a response to my post?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by That Guy

do you honestly think rgiii could have gotten 27 passes off without getting hurt again? that's like 7 sacks minimum for him.

You do love your rhetorical questions and hyperbole.
And for the 1000th time I don't care about the off the field stuff, so it has no bearing on me. I am remain unaffected by the drama.

And obtw Willie Smith prolly won't ever start at LT for us ever again. Even though the way most fans talked about the Lions game, there isn't much of a drop off lol.

Have any opinion about the rest of my comments about the preseason game or just QB/Cousins/Griffin based stuff?

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Minus
Looked like shit when it was 1st team vs 1st team

Whenever we are undefeated in the pre season the regular season ends being awful

It was 13-7 when the Ravens 1s left the game. Hardly an ass kicking and nowhere near as brutal as the Lions game.

[over the mountain]

Plusses:

1. TW getting extended. That has to be a huge relief for him and the team. As he said, "you never know when a guy might roll your legs from behind". Im sure it has a positive effect on other players seeing a drafted Skin who has been here for years being rewarded.

2. WR corp looks deep. Desean and pierre plus roberts/grant/crowder as slot with ross as the 6 is a very nice group imo.

3. pressure on QB. i thought it was okay, Joe did a good job of avoiding a few sacks.

4. cousins can run the playbook.

5. we beat the ravens in M&T. harbaugh and boschetti do not like snyder and the skins. i think harbaugh wanted this for may reasons, and he didnt get it.

Minuses:

1. run game was shut down. in the preseason i dont mind running to the right on 4th and 2 to test the young right side .. which seemed to fail.

i am not worried though. callahan should improve the unit over time and we have a good starting 5 imo. depth at tackle scars the hell out of me.

2. run D. i thought up the middle we were stout, but anything outside the A gap found some room. that may be a familiar theme all season.

3. Smith 67 yard TD. horrible angle and over pursuit by amerson then goldson.

4. our LBs havent been tested yet with covering a TE or back and I think that will be our achilles heal all season. has riley played?

[Chico23231]

Another minus...John Harbaugh is a effing dickhead. The yelling at Gruden thing was like "wtf, its preseason. chill" and then the reporter thing at halftime was just unacceptable. What a dick for zero reasons.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

It was 13-7 when the Ravens 1s left the game. Hardly an ass kicking and nowhere near as brutal as the Lions game.

Didn't the Ravens 1st team defense play on that 2 minute drive?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by 30gut

You do love your rhetorical questions and hyperbole.
And for the 1000th time I don't care about the off the field stuff, so it has no bearing on me. I am remain unaffected by the drama.

And obtw Willie Smith prolly won't ever start at LT for us ever again. Even though the way most fans talked about the Lions game, there isn't much of a drop off lol.

Have any opinion about the rest of my comments about the preseason game or just QB/Cousins/Griffin based stuff?

it's not really rhetorical or hyperbole, his career average is 1 sack every 7 attempts, his preseason average this year was 1 sack per 4 attempts. compare that to the other QBs behind the same offensive line, it's not even close.

I'm glad the off field stuff doesn't affect you, but i guarantee the guys actually playing the game are annoyed by it, at least a little bit.

you can keep making excuses for him all you want, but he's sucked for over two years. it's time to be accountable.

[30gut]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...dskins-ravens/

Redskins:

–QB Colt McCoy led all Redskins with a +3.5 overall grade, playing 36 snaps. He didn’t attempt any throws over 20 yards, but connected on all four attempts traveling between 10-19 yards. He was nearly perfect when passing while not under pressure, grading at +2.6 and throwing two TDs.

–Linebackers Perry Riley and Preston Smith both had multiple defensive stops and QB hurries. Riley graded better in run defense at +2.3, while Smith finished with a +1.9 pass-rush grade. Combined they had five of the six QB hurries for the Redskins on the night.

–Rookie guard Arie Kouandjio out of Alabama bounced back from two disastrous games and finished at a +1.3 overall grade. In his first two games, he was a cumulative -4.3. His snaps have decreased each game, however — a strong sign he’ll be relegated to the backup role.

Top 5 graded players:

1. LB Perry Riley (+3.6)

2. QB Colt McCoy (+3.5)

3. OL Ty Nsekhe (+3.1)

4. WR Ryan Grant (+2.0)

5. LB Jackson Jeffcoat (+1.9)

[30gut]

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[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by 30gut

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...dskins-ravens/

Redskins:

–QB Colt McCoy led all Redskins with a +3.5 overall grade, playing 36 snaps. He didn’t attempt any throws over 20 yards, but connected on all four attempts traveling between 10-19 yards. He was nearly perfect when passing while not under pressure, grading at +2.6 and throwing two TDs.

–Linebackers Perry Riley and Preston Smith both had multiple defensive stops and QB hurries. Riley graded better in run defense at +2.3, while Smith finished with a +1.9 pass-rush grade. Combined they had five of the six QB hurries for the Redskins on the night.

–Rookie guard Arie Kouandjio out of Alabama bounced back from two disastrous games and finished at a +1.3 overall grade. In his first two games, he was a cumulative -4.3. His snaps have decreased each game, however — a strong sign he’ll be relegated to the backup role.

Top 5 graded players:

1. LB Perry Riley (+3.6)

2. QB Colt McCoy (+3.5)

3. OL Ty Nsekhe (+3.1)

4. WR Ryan Grant (+2.0)

5. LB Jackson Jeffcoat (+1.9)

What did you think of Cooley's film breakdown on Kirk?

It's just a preseason game and that tempers expectations of course. That being said, I am really encouraged how many blitzes the Ravens brought and how our line held up in front of Kirk and how he delivered the ball under pressure.

Just needs to carry over to the regular season.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by 30gut

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And what did you think of not drafting a QB this year?

[DYoungJelly]

This is the bad part:

Defensive film breakdown

Audio Vault | ESPN 980

[SirLK26]

Wasn't really a fan of the Smith pick at first, but he's looked good so far in preseason.

I wish PFF's report was more comprehensive, not a lot of info there.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

What did you think of Cooley's film breakdown on Kirk?

I didn't hear/watch Cooley's breakdown of Cousins pre-season snaps vs the Ravens.

Here are my thoughts from that preseason game:

They have got to find a competent TE in base personnel. I think the lack of success in the 1st unit base personnel runs is because Compton at TE invites teams to sell out run commit or at the very least commit his defender to 100% run. Gotta find a better answer.....or don't run from base personnel/formations?

Good to see the screens game, which was missing in the 1st 2 preseason games. We saw 2 screens in the 1st 2 series 1 WR screen(intercepted) and 1 RB screen against 2nd and long. Even saw some hurry up which is good.

If Kirk was playing as short a stint as Griffin vs the Lions he would have been 3-5 with 1 INT and 1 Fumbles snap.

Kirk took a helacious hit against a blitz on a pass that was broken up which luckily wasn't picked off and almost got Grant sent to the hospital. If it was Griffin throwing that pass he would have crucified, that would have been used in the referendum rhetoric.

Kirk and 1st unit offense didn't cross the 50 yard line til 6 minutes left in the 2nd qtr.
And the 2 minute drill TD drive was against the Ravens 2nd unit defense.

But it was good to see the offense get going eventually.
I like seeing Keenan suplex that WR.
Nice seeing 1st unit defense get a goalline stop even though it was against their 2nd O.

o I saw Reed make an effective block in the 1st qtr....maybe there's hope?

o Grant, Crowder and Jones looked good again

o Colt is the master of the bootleg, even under duress

It's just a preseason game and that tempers expectations of course. That being said, I am really encouraged how many blitzes the Ravens brought and how our line held up in front of Kirk and how he delivered the ball under pressure.

Not to take away from the rest of your statement but I couldn't help but laugh at the 'its just a preseason' game statement based on what just happened.

I want to be/feel more encouraged but his snaps vs the Ravens didn't do it for me. I have seen Cousins play much better then that during actual games. But I guess unlike most of the fanbase/some members of the coaching staff preseason performance/results aren't the end all be all. I expect Cousins to play better then he did during this preseason game.