Eagles withdraw franchise tag on DT Simon

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by illdefined

lemme be the first to say i'd be glad to see Simon in a skins uniform, he's not that old and Noble freely admits he's rusty (and running on an essentially artificial knee). maybe Simon just wants the respect of a long term deal and not necessarily megabucks.

our defensive line has been great at stuffing the run, but no one's gonna say it brought a pass rush on it's own. our sack leader was a CORNER! with a little more push from the front four our defense would have been no.1 instead of no.3

Two questions:

1. How would we afford Simon? Even if he's after "respect," he'll still command a ton of bucks.

2. I know it's strange for a corner to lead the team in sacks, but ultimately was there anything wrong with our defense last year?

[illdefined]

k, my two answers.

1. the philly org. is infamous for treating players as completely expendable. a little Snyder attention, a back loaded long term incentive based contract and the best opportunity to spite the Eagles may just do the trick. like a more enlightened version of the Trotter deal. better numbers, better player.

2. again, a little more defensive action in the backfield instead of relying so much on the secondary would put our defense over the edge. our secondary is restructuring, and while it may end up better than it was before sometime over this season, it'd be best if the QB didn't even get that chance to test them.

[Big C]

springs was tied with griffin for the lead actually, but no1 ever says that

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Big C

springs was tied with griffin for the lead actually, but no1 ever says that

right, but it was only 6 sacks. we should be getting double digit leaders.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Big C

springs was tied with griffin for the lead actually, but no1 ever says that

That's right - they both had six a piece.

I really think we should stick with what we've got in the middle. Realistcally, what are the Skin's chances of signing Simon, and more importantly who would be the out man??

[illdefined]

like i said before, Noble himself says he's rusty, and in his case it's probably actual rust on his metal knee. oh, you mean salary wise? TUPA!

[12thMan]

How much more would Simon cost than let's say Courtney Brown whom we couldn't sign??

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

How much more would Simon cost than let's say Courtney Brown whom we couldn't sign??

I think he would cost significantly more. Brown signed an incentive-laden deal since he's been consistently on IR or the PUP list. Simon is a Pro-Bowler, albeit an overrated one, and will want signifcant amounts of guaranteed money. There's certainly a better market for Simon than there was for Brown (even at this point in the year); the Ravens and Packers are just two, of probably about six to ten teams interested in acquiring Simon. I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine Simon getting less guaranteed money than $8 million and he'll probably command a lot more money than that.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I think he would cost significantly more. Brown signed an incentive-laden deal since he's been consistently on IR or the PUP list. Simon is a Pro-Bowler, albeit an overrated one, and will want signifcant amounts of guaranteed money. There's certainly a better market for Simon than there was for Brown (even at this point in the year); the Ravens and Packers are just two, of probably about six to ten teams interested in acquiring Simon. I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine Simon getting less guaranteed money than $8 million and he'll probably command a lot more money than that.

I just can't see us signing this guy unless we do some serious cap manuevering and shifting some personnel around. And since we have more of a need for a pass rusher I don't know how the Skins would begin to justify signing him.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I just can't see us signing this guy unless we do some serious cap manuevering and shifting some personnel around. And since we have more of a need for a pass rusher I don't know how the Skins would begin to justify signing him.

I totally agree.

[mooby]

i don't care where he goes, but i'm glad he's not in philly anymore.

[FRPLG]

Avoid him like the plague. He'd mess with chemistry, doesn't know the defense, clearly has an over valued opinion of himself, and is probably not in game shape. Plus I am always wary of a Philly castoff. They are known for not retaining players but how many of those "lost players" have gone on to do anything anywhere else? Not for the skins. The last thing our defense needs is a major change of personell.