Most surprising cut?

[Kevikazi]

Most surprised by Wilds. We need a good dimeback and Wilds have better cover skills than Jimoh...IMO.
Most disappointed by McCune. I guess I bought into the hype and expected him to be at least a backup MLB.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Kevikazi

Most surprised by Wilds. We need a good dimeback and Wilds have better cover skills than Jimoh...IMO.
Most disappointed by McCune. I guess I bought into the hype and expected him to be at least a backup MLB.

Goes to show hype is only worth the paper it's printed on - ask Zak Keasey.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Goes to show hype is only worth the paper it's printed on - ask Zak Keasey.

McCune was overhyped, but there I think there was room for excitement; the guy was a hard worker and had all the tangibles. I think the coaching staff saw a little more than his speed and size when they drafted him with their 5th round draft pick. A good coaching staff doesn't waste a 5th rounder simply because a guy is big and fast. Granted, they realized they made a mistake and cut him; but to say that McCune was bound to fail is a little strange. Either you are a big Louisville fan and you KNEW McCune would fail simply based on your direct observations of him, or you have VERY little faith in the coaching staff's scouting abilities.

I personally voted for McCune because he did have the tangibles and I believe in the coaching staff. I thought that they saw something in him and if that "something" was there, he could be special given his tangibles.

[MTK]

McCune was definitely overhyped because of his impressive appearance, but then again that was the book on him coming out of college. The experts said he was a workout warrior and somebody would fall in love with that aspect and take him.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

McCune was definitely overhyped because of his impressive appearance, but then again that was the book on him coming out of college. The experts said he was a workout warrior and somebody would fall in love with that aspect and take him.

But do you think the coaching staff would actually waste a 5th round pick on a guy who simply could run fast and was big? I actually think the coaching staff saw something more in him than that. They were wrong and admitted their mistake by cutting McCune and signing him to the practice squad, but I doubt they drafted him simply on the basis of his size and speed.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

But do you think the coaching staff would actually waste a 5th round pick on a guy who simply could run fast and was big? I actually think the coaching staff saw something more in him than that. They were wrong and admitted their mistake by cutting McCune and signing him to the practice squad, but I doubt they drafted him simply on the basis of his size and speed.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they saw him with his shirt off and that's why they took him.

But at the same time many teams (and fans) make the mistake of falling in love with players that look the part, but maybe aren't as impressive on the field.

McCune needs work. Probably more work than the coaches thought he would need. He's raw and and that was the book on him coming out of college, but I think alot of fans looked past that and the only thing they saw was his physical attributes and figured this guy has got to be a baller.

The main thing with him right now is his mental game isn't anywhere near his physical game, but once it catches up he could be a quality player.

[backrow]

I wasn't surprised with any of them. No starters amongst the cuts. No starters re-signed to the PS. I abstained from the vote since "No surprises" was not a choice.

[jermus22]

Not terribly surprised by all the cuts, just disappointed that some of them weren't eligible for the PS. I picked Warner since it would seem to make more sense having a 5th DE instead of a 5th DT. I'm still not sure why we kept Killings and Boschetti, but at least we have Aki Jones on the PS. Sheesh, we have six DTs when you count the PS and only four DEs, one of whom is injury prone. :confused: Maybe Chris Clemons will spend some time as a pass-rushing end like Lavar.

[BossHog]

Ok. Glad to see that the coaches saw that Groom was keeper. I'm cool with Keasey making the squad too because he has good size, 6' 0" 236lbs, speed, heart, and is supposedly picking up the schemes well (also, on Madden he'll have the blonde dreads hanging out the back of his helmet). Wilds blew some assignments big time in the preseason closer so it's understood why his leash was so short. I'm still unsatisfied with our DEs. Greg Williams may be too, but he will work with the talent we already have. None of these guys have the pass rushing skills and moves of a premier DE and that includes Arrington. That's the reason L.A. is used as a DE on 'passing downs' and equally the reason he's not effective at it. The 3-3-5 formation suits our players' strengths more. Maybe the previously injury riddled Nic Clemons will live up to his #90 jersey (I nearly torched mine when Kenard Lang left to go play for his old college coach who by the way is out of the league(?)

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by BossHog

Ok. Glad to see that the coaches saw that Groom was keeper. I'm cool with Keasey making the squad too because he has good size, 6' 0" 236lbs, speed, heart, and is supposedly picking up the schemes well (also, on Madden he'll have the blonde dreads hanging out the back of his helmet). Wilds blew some assignments big time in the preseason closer so it's understood why his leash was so short. I'm still unsatisfied with our DEs. Greg Williams may be too, but he will work with the talent we already have. None of these guys have the pass rushing skills and moves of a premier DE and that includes Arrington. That's the reason L.A. is used as a DE on 'passing downs' and equally the reason he's not effective at it. The 3-3-5 formation suits our players' strengths more. Maybe the previously injury riddled Nic Clemons will live up to his #90 jersey (I nearly torched mine when Kenard Lang left to go play for his old college coach who by the way is out of the league(?)

Yeah, I believe Kenard is done. But on the contrary about the DEs. While not spectacular, I think they are very solid and capable. The lack of pass rush is a concern, but who knows what will happen when the whistle blows on 9/11.
We could be in for a treat- besides I don't think Wynn and Daniels have played a full season together yet.

Aki Jones could be someone they are hoping will develop sooner rather than later. Stay tuned...

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by BossHog

Greg Williams may be too, but he will work with the talent we already have. None of these guys have the pass rushing skills and moves of a premier DE and that includes Arrington.

LA did have 10 sacks in a season, and we still had 40 sacks overall last year (pittsburg had 41, leader may have had 44-48)... so i'd disagree that LA can't do it. And I agree a premier DE would be great, but we're getting good sack numbers in other ways.

[MTK]

Lang has actually dropped some weight and converted to LB.

[Gmanc711]

For me it was Warner. I thought he was a very bright spot last season on our defense, and I thought he was really an up and coming player. Someone must be better than him, though, so thats always good news.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

For me it was Warner. I thought he was a very bright spot last season on our defense, and I thought he was really an up and coming player. Someone must be better than him, though, so thats always good news.

I thought he was up and coming too, till i looked and saw that warner was 30 and has been in the league for 8 seasons!!! (with a grand total of 17 tackles).
I'm guessing they chose evans over him because evans is a better tackler and 4 years younger.

[AnonEmouse]

Or filling in on 3rd down at LB when Arrington lines up on the line?

The only surprise, if you can call it that, for me is Farris. Whilst he's not exactly lit things up, I consider him a better option than Brown at WR. Brown is on the roster as KR not as a WR. I think any more injuries at WR (i.e. Jacobs) and we'll be scouting around for depth again.