O Line

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

It's difficult for me to understand how you can max protect, run two man pass routes, and expect to get receivers open. Teams have been giving us trouble just rushing their front four, and at that rate you have seven other players to cover up two receivers, The odds just dosen't seem to be in our favor. That's why our QB has to hold the ball so long because usually there's no one open.

We should at least release Robert Royal and send him out on a pass pattern. Its not like he tries to block anyone anyways.

[56FAN]

dockery has got to go. he just doen't seem to br progressing and he's too reactionary and not enough of a dictator.

[joethiesmanfan]

wait a minute the last sack was jansen getting smoked by a linebacker.. number 56..

[BigSKINBauer]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

wait a minute the last sack was jansen getting smoked by a linebacker.. number 56..

jansen has been giving up a couple lately, he will come around or i'll send my boys to break his thumbs

[joethiesmanfan]

i am sure he will come around the skins are just inconsistant lately one week the defense dont show up the next week the offense dont show up..

[skins009]

One thing is for sure, we need to get rid of Derrick Dockery, he sucks real bad. Our D-line is really missing Griffen right now. I really don't know why we don't rush Lavar more on the outside.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by skins009

One thing is for sure, we need to get rid of Derrick Dockery, he sucks real bad. Our D-line is really missing Griffen right now. I really don't know why we don't rush Lavar more on the outside.

I'm not sure I totally agree with you about Dockery. Seems to me he's cut down drastically on holding and false start penalties.

In fact, the costly sacks this year have come on Jansen/Samuels. And against Oakland, one of Burgess' sacks was a missed assignment by, what I could see, Randy Thomas. And he constantly pressured from the outside.

I'm not a big Dockery fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I've made it a point to single him out this year and I think he's been solid at best.

Bottom line, we can nit-pick all day, but the line as a unit isn't playing well this year, especially late in the games.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm not sure I totally agree with you about Dockery. Seems to me he's cut down drastically on holding and false start penalties.

In fact, the costly sacks this year have come on Jansen/Samuels. And against Oakland, one of Burgess' sacks was a missed assignment by, what I could see, Randy Thomas. And he constantly pressured from the outside.

I'm not a big Dockery fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I've made it a point to single him out this year and I think he's been solid at best.

Bottom line, we can nit-pick all day, but the line as a unit isn't playing well this year, especially late in the games.

great name i saw ur flag at the game sunday was awesome

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

great name i saw ur flag at the game sunday was awesome

It's all about the 12thMan, baby.....

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I've been wanting to say this for a long time. The O-line is not very good. They are average. The D-line is really flawed. Our Defensive Ends are a joke. It's not even something to debate. The lines are the key to this game and we all know it. The problem with this team is the line. O and D. The line on both sides is B-league.

I was taught by many coaches that the game is won at the line of scrimmage. You could not be further from the truth. Our O line has been the reason for every sack that resulted in a fumble. Brunell can't be charged with holding on to the ball too long because he will throw it away. But when defenders are hitting him from his blind-side while Samuels is watching helplessly, its a shame. Chris Cooley has been horrible at blocking and yesterday was no difference. Cooley missed the block on Simeon Rice last week and threw his Gatorade cup in disguss because of his failure to protect. He has to play blocker as well as he catches the ball.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

I was taught by many coaches that the game is won at the line of scrimmage. You could not be further from the truth. Our O line has been the reason for every sack that resulted in a fumble. Brunell can't be charged with holding on to the ball too long because he will throw it away. But when defenders are hitting him from his blind-side while Samuels is watching helplessly, its a shame. Chris Cooley has been horrible at blocking and yesterday was no difference. Cooley missed the block on Simeon Rice last week and threw his Gatorade cup in disguss because of his failure to protect. He has to play blocker as well as he catches the ball.

Aren't you agreeing with wilsowilso that the O-line is a problem? And doesn't Jansen cover the blindside, not Samuels?

[celts32]

Our O-line was a trainwreck on Sunday.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by celts32

Our O-line was a trainwreck on Sunday.

How? The running game looked good. The passing game looked bad, but I think that was more of a reflection of no one getting open.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

How? The running game looked good. The passing game looked bad, but I think that was more of a reflection of no one getting open.

I'm with you on this one in fact portis is getting more yards every week... i really didnt see pressure well ok the last play but i didnt see the poor line play....

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

How? The running game looked good. The passing game looked bad, but I think that was more of a reflection of no one getting open.

It was the worst game I have ever seen Jansen play for one. He got beat around the end several times. They made Burgess look like Reggie White. I know you watch the games closely Ramsey so i am not going to say otherwise, but I really thought the pass protection was terrible.