Our next coach??

[Monkeydad]

I'd take Weis as an OC, but definitely NOT as a HC.

[SFREDSKIN]

Weis is going to end up in NE where he belongs w/ Belichick.

[PennSkinsFan]

Fire Vinny, hire a GM, let the GM pick his coach. Kind of like normal teams.

[53Fan]

^ I'll take the 2nd choice.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

^ I'll take the 2nd choice.

I'll second that too.

[MTK]

Fassel deserves a 2nd shot in this league. He had a 58-53-1 record with the Giants (and a 5-2 playoff mark) and got them to a Super Bowl.

There have been far worse coaches that have had 2nd chances, so why not Fassel??

(I'm not saying I'd want him, but why shouldn't he get another shot with someone?)

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Fassel deserves a 2nd shot in this league. He had a 58-53-1 record with the Giants (and a 5-2 playoff mark) and got them to a Super Bowl.

There have been far worse coaches that have had 2nd chances, so why not Fassel??

(I'm not saying I'd want him, but why shouldn't he get another shot with someone?)

Sure why not.....there's the

Browns
Buffalo
Panthers
Buccaneer's
Texans (now this would be a good spot for him)
Rams
Raiders (another good spot for him, let him prove he can coach)

[diehardskin2982]

he should get a shot... but not with us

[GusFrerotte]

From all the scuttlebutt about coaches doesn't look like we will land a big name. Gruden is staying in the booth, Dungy isn't coming back it seems. Cowher is the only one that hasn't really said anything thus far. Personally, I am not sure these guys want to deal with Snyder and the FO situation.

[GTripp0012]

I'm with you on Fassel, at least. Brian Billick, too. Both would be good choices, better than Shanahan.

Of course, with Gruden out of the mix, I'm much more inclined to push for another first-time head coach. Like Ron Rivera.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm with you on Fassel, at least. Brian Billick, too. Both would be good choices, better than Shanahan.

Of course, with Gruden out of the mix, I'm much more inclined to push for another first-time head coach. Like Ron Rivera.

Would the team necessarily need/want an offensive head coach given the problems they've had on that side of the ball?

[SBXVII]

My issues with Fassel revolve around how he coached in New York. Oh don't get me wrong the players loved him. He's a players coach. I just never saw him as a coach that would take a team to the SB and even said that when he was a coach. His play calls were not that great and the actaul plays were not that great. Meaning it was a bland offense. They always won close games.

My second issue is that he is a players coach. I think we need more of a disciplinarian right now. Someone like a Marty or Cowher, maybe Grimm would fill that roll nicely.

Billick never had a decent offense. He's the head coach. It's his duty to make sure it works and I think either it was his system that failed and he wouldn't admit it or his loyalty to whoever was supposed to make the offense work. Fire them and bring in someone who would have fixed the problem but he didn't. Our major issues right now are offense and we are looking at two ex-HC's who had mediocre offenses.

I only like Shanahan cause the O-lines were great in Denver. Great blocking scheme's. Great pass blocking scheme's. He's not my first choice though cause he does not strike me as a disciplinarian.

Although winning fixes everything. We start winning with whoever and everyone will be happy. Some of us might be asking which is the best way to eat crow.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

My issues with Fassel revolve around how he coached in New York. Oh don't get me wrong the players loved him. He's a players coach. I just never saw him as a coach that would take a team to the SB and even said that when he was a coach. His play calls were not that great and the actaul plays were not that great. Meaning it was a bland offense. They always won close games.

My second issue is that he is a players coach. I think we need more of a disciplinarian right now. Someone like a Marty or Cowher, maybe Grimm would fill that roll nicely.

Billick never had a decent offense. He's the head coach. It's his duty to make sure it works and I think either it was his system that failed and he wouldn't admit it or his loyalty to whoever was supposed to make the offense work. Fire them and bring in someone who would have fixed the problem but he didn't. Our major issues right now are offense and we are looking at two ex-HC's who had mediocre offenses.

I only like Shanahan cause the O-lines were great in Denver. Great blocking scheme's. Great pass blocking scheme's. He's not my first choice though cause he does not strike me as a disciplinarian.

Although winning fixes everything. We start winning with whoever and everyone will be happy. Some of us might be asking which is the best way to eat crow.

Except that Fassel did take a team to the SB :confused:

Check Billick's offenses in Minnesota.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Except that Fassel did take a team to the SB :confused:

Check Billick's offenses in Minnesota.

Fassel did go to the superbowl, but his overall record is just too mediocre for me. He may end up being the best option for us, but I'm still hoping we somehow manage to land Cowher. He's just got the right "attitude" for a division as tough as this one. His teams were always "tough" and thats not something you can say about any of the other coaches who are going to be out there. This team needs a culture change and I think he's the best guy to bring it.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Fassel did go to the superbowl, but his overall record is just too mediocre for me. He may end up being the best option for us, but I'm still hoping we somehow manage to land Cowher. He's just got the right "attitude" for a division as tough as this one. His teams were always "tough" and thats not something you can say about any of the other coaches who are going to be out there. This team needs a culture change and I think he's the best guy to bring it.

My question is, why do we have to settle for mediocrity with coaches that have one SB win in 14 years or another who won with Elway or Billick who had a great D assembled by Ozzie Newsome. I don't want Jack Pardee type coaches coaching this team, I want a young unknown coach like when Gibbs was hired who will be a winner. Is it this bad being a Redskins fans that mediocrity is what we clamor for?