Handcuffed by a Dumbass

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I missed a lot of this argument, but my points lie in the fact it wasn't anything SERIOUSLY stupid that he was doing. It was an accident and that's all. I just think it's wrong to criticize someone on the basis of what they do pertaining to their job. Sure, criticize them all you want just for the actions, but it's extremely easy to say, "What that person is doing is jeopardizing their career." I'm sure most of us need our brain cells to do our jobs properly and I'm sure I've killed more than one with all the drinking I've done, and no one is like "Dammit Ben, you should talk drinking or else you're not going to be able to do your job." If I get a lecture, it's just a "Stop drinking because it's wrong (and those people are stupid ).

Drinking moderately, even once-weekly binge drinking, is not a serious threat to your career. Drinking to the point of alcoholism is, though. So if you see someone drinking that much, then yeah, they should get a lecture.

It's not about doing what's right and wrong. It's about doing what's in your own best interests. You can make millions of dollars playing football, you do something risky that gets yourself hurt, all of a sudden you can't make millions any more. The cost/benefit is out of whack. The trouble is nobody ever thinks of the costs; nobody thinks they're going to get hurt on an ATV. They think oh I'll be fine, I'll just be careful. And then before you know it, their leg muscle is hanging out of a huge gash.

Someone said it on here already, just ride the ATVs once you retire from football. At that point, millions of dollars are not at stake. It's the money at stake here that makes it such a stupid decision.

[Schneed10]

There's just no rational argument you can make for why riding ATVs in the NFL offseason is a smart idea. It's dumb no matter how you cut it. The only reason people do it is because it's fun, and damnit, they don't care if it's stupid, they just want to have fun.

And that's fine. But don't complain when I call a spade a spade.

[Schneed10]

A regular joe risks his regular joe salary when he rides ATVs. He could get hurt an not be able to make it back to his 9-5.

A football player risks his NFL salary (for many it's in the millions) when he rides ATVs. BIG difference.

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

A regular joe risks his regular joe salary when he rides ATVs. He could get hurt an not be able to make it back to his 9-5.

A football player risks his NFL salary (for many it's in the millions) when he rides ATVs. BIG difference.

Rabach is already a millionaire and doesnt need money nearly as much as an average joe who needs each and every paycheck to get by. If somebody with a regular job couldn't work anymore, they would be a lot more screwed than an NFL player who is already a millionaire

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by steveo395

Rabach is already a millionaire and doesnt need money nearly as much as an average joe who needs each and every paycheck to get by. If somebody with a regular job couldn't work anymore, they would be a lot more screwed than an NFL player who is already a millionaire

OK now you're talking about something completely dehabilitating, like paralyzing yourself. In that case you're right, the NFL player has more money saved and could get by easier than the average joe.

But if we're talking about risking paralysis, then getting on an ATV is stupid for ANYBODY. But that's besides the point.

There are countless other injuries that would ruin a football career, but still allow the average joe to sit at his desk and do his job.

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

OK now you're talking about something completely dehabilitating, like paralyzing yourself. In that case you're right, the NFL player has more money saved and could get by easier than the average joe.

But if we're talking about risking paralysis, then getting on an ATV is stupid for ANYBODY. But that's besides the point.

There are countless other injuries that would ruin a football career, but still allow the average joe to sit at his desk and do his job.

you said "A regular joe risks his regular joe salary when he rides ATVs. He could get hurt an not be able to make it back to his 9-5."
so i guess you were talking about paralysis there too?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by steveo395

you said "A regular joe risks his regular joe salary when he rides ATVs. He could get hurt an not be able to make it back to his 9-5."
so i guess you were talking about paralysis there too?

Yes, I was talking about the kind of injury that would completely dehabilitate you. A football player would lose his ability to play football by, say, shattering a kneecap. With that same shattered kneecap, a regular joe would still be able to sit at his desk and answer the phone, he'd just need a cane or a wheelchair to get him to work.

[Schneed10]

Gotta jet now guys. I have to ride home on my ATV. LOL

Maybe I'll pick up the discussion over the weekend.

[Pocket$ $traight]

He will be fine. Get over it.

[MTK]

5 pages dedicated to a non-issue... he's going to be fine.

Must be the offseason.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

5 pages dedicated to a non-issue... he's going to be fine.

Must be the offseason.

Someone should start a LaVar thread. That should make you feel better.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Someone should start a LaVar thread. That should make you feel better.

I'm sure there are plenty of those on the way once he finally drops his asking price to a more reasonable figure and signs somewhere.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

5 pages dedicated to a non-issue... he's going to be fine.

Must be the offseason.

If we passed on discussing non-issues around here, we'd have very little to talk about this time of year. It's just a discussion on the principle of the matter.

[Pocket$ $traight]

This is idiotic. You could get in your car and drive to a 7-11 and get killed in a car wreck. You could be walking to work and someone loses control and runs over you.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda....who gives a shit. The guy has the right to get on an ATV if he wants. No one in this chatroom has the right to tell anyone what they should be doing and the bottom line is that he will be fine.

And by the way. Don't football players, especially, risk paralysis every time they suit up?

You are going to criticize a football player for riding an ATV?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

This is idiotic. You could get in your car and drive to a 7-11 and get killed in a car wreck. You could be walking to work and someone loses control and runs over you.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda....who gives a shit. The guy has the right to get on an ATV if he wants. No one in this chatroom has the right to tell anyone what they should be doing and the bottom line is that he will be fine.

And by the way. Don't football players, especially, risk paralysis every time they suit up?

You are going to criticize a football player for riding an ATV?

Since you went and threw in the term idiotic, I assume it's open season with the verbage up in here now. Your post is downright stupid.

Point number 1 - you could get killed in a car wreck on your way to 7-11. Yes you could. But you're a lot more likely to get hurt on an ATV than you are on a car. That's why medical insurance premiums for motorbikes are higher than for cars.

Point number 2 - I'm not trying to tell anyone what they can or can't do. I never said there was anything contractually preventing Rabach from riding an ATV. There's nothing illegal about it. I respect that it's his decision to make. All I'm doing is criticizing him for making a poor decision. He can choose what he wants to do, but guess what, I'm free to judge him on his decisions if I want to.

Point number 3 - Football players get paid to risk paralysis every time they suit up. If they didn't suit up and risk the paralysis, they wouldn't earn the millions of dollars. If they don't hop on an ATV, they don't risk paralysis, AND they keep their million dollar salary.

Yes I'm going to criticize a football player for riding an ATV. By doing so he's jeopardizing his ability to play football in the future, which is precisely what allows him to earn millions per year.