The Right Players For The Offense

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I apologize on behalf of Mark Brunell for being 37 and not a very sexy player. All he does is produce from the QB position.

Yeah, One touchdown and a shade over 200 yards per game is ridiculous production...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Yeah, One touchdown and a shade over 200 yards per game is ridiculous production...

Considering that the season TOP is nearly 2 to 1 against you, it really is.

Don't forget that passing TD is a stat that is only representitive of a team's red zone tendencies and has little to do with the QB himself. Going into the bye, Portis was second in the NFL in rushing TD's, second only to Tomlinson. Even Betts has a rush TD this season.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Say anything you want about how Brunell is "unable to stretch the field" (or any other subjective arguement), but when your numbers look like that and your offense ranks in the top ten in efficiency and scoring, you are not a problem, plain and simple.

if Yards Per throw ATTEMPT (not completion) were a stat, would you care then? what about 'doesn't throw vertical' or 'over the middle' is subjective?

how's Portis's YPC by the way? has he broken any "homeruns"? if you're basing the offense purely on how KC played, why isnt Cooley thrown to downfield like Gonz was?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by illdefined

if Yards Per throw ATTEMPT (not completion) were a stat, would you care then? what about 'doesn't throw vertical' or 'over the middle' is subjective?

how's Portis's YPC by the way? has he broken any "homeruns"? if you're basing the offense purely on how KC played, why isnt Cooley thrown to downfield like Gonz was?

Yards per Attempt is a stat, in fact, I don't think I've ever thrown out a YPC stat...ever. All of my stats are YPA.

Vertical and over the middle are open to interpretation, therefore they are subjective. So is "homeruns" while you are at it.

I don't know what Cooley's deal is, but he is in pass protection a lot. It's a poor use of his talent, IMO, but a necessary one.

Portis' YPC is 4.2, down about a half yard from last year. But Brunell was the QB both years (and is playing better this year), so it's obviously not his fault.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yards per Attempt is a stat, in fact, I don't think I've ever thrown out a YPC stat...ever. All of my stats are YPA.

Vertical and over the middle are open to interpretation, therefore they are subjective. So is "homeruns" while you are at it.

I don't know what Cooley's deal is, but he is in pass protection a lot. It's a poor use of his talent, IMO, but a necessary one.

Portis' YPC is 4.2, down about a half yard from last year. But Brunell was the QB both years, so it's obviously not his fault.

"homeruns" was your term, not mine. that stat shown in game 2 about Brunell throwing outside the numbers more than anyone in the NFL looked pretty empirical to me. and finally Brunell is the same from last year but our O-Line isn't? you're comparisons with players this year vs. last year are just as "inconsistent".

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yards per Attempt is a stat, in fact, I don't think I've ever thrown out a YPC stat...ever. All of my stats are YPA.

Vertical and over the middle are open to interpretation, therefore they are subjective. So is "homeruns" while you are at it.

I don't know what Cooley's deal is, but he is in pass protection a lot. It's a poor use of his talent, IMO, but a necessary one.

Portis' YPC is 4.2, down about a half yard from last year. But Brunell was the QB both years (and is playing better this year), so it's obviously not his fault.

Portis's numbers are actually down just .1 yard from last year, not half a yard a carry. And if Saunders thinks that big plays should come out of the running game, he shouldn't have a job. That's not something you can count on in the NFL. There are too many good players on defense to try to rely on the offensive line and running back to make huge plays. Big plays have to come from the passing game. And that's not supposed to all be 12 yard passes and Santana in space. The ball needs to fly down the field.

I don't understand how anyone can watch the NFL and say that Mark Brunell is just as good as about half of the regular NFL starters. Other guys stretch the field. And I don't want to see his numbers compared to winning quarterbacks because Brunell isn't playing well enough to win. That's very subjective. That's based on a game by game basis. If he were playing well enough to win they'd be winning! And as for time of possession, that's his damn fault! If the ball kept moving, they Skins O would stay on the field. They don't move the chains because Brunell handles a 3rd and 8 by throwing to whoever is closest to him. It's disgusting.

[GTripp0012]

Let's not forget that the offense is the reason this team has 2 wins as opposed to one or maybe even none if we had the offense of the prior two seasons.

[The Zimmermans]

brunell is older, slower, with less arm strength than last year, don't give me that "better than last year" crap. He has scrambled for like one first down this year. He had some big time scrambles last year, plus he was more on cue with santana last year.

He's gotten worse, I hate how he hides injuries, and plays through them, which severely hurts the team in the end. If he can't do it, he should take a week off.

When portis doesnt play the whole game, we always lose, without him, we don't got much. If we bench brunell for ANYBODY that might change.

[That Guy]

GT, part of the ToP MAY also be due to the offense not running ball control and going 3 and out so much. the defense has sucked, but offense hasn't helped them out at all.