The Return Of Cb Stability

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Branch seems like the next Big Daddy to me.

There's alot of depth along the defensive line in this draft, I'm hoping we can trade down, get more picks, and still fill needs.

I tell you, the more I hear of people taking a dump on Alan Branch, if we were to trade down, he could still be there for us to be able to grab him and another defensive linemen or two.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Branch seems like the next Big Daddy to me.

There's alot of depth along the defensive line in this draft, I'm hoping we can trade down, get more picks, and still fill needs.

I'm liking the sound of Adam Carriker more as far as the likelihood of being a solid nfl starter. Adams & Anderson are rated high based on their pass rush ability, but it seems a lot of those highly rated pass rush prospects don't pan out.
Certainly aren't many reggie white type guys lately, lots of de's seem smaller the last few years.
Carriker might sill be there in the early to mid teens.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Branch seems like the next Big Daddy to me.

There's alot of depth along the defensive line in this draft, I'm hoping we can trade down, get more picks, and still fill needs.

My problem with Branch is simple. He isn't a pressure guy. He is a block eater and run stuffer. Those guys are far easier to find(and cheaper too) than a good or better pass rusher. There are only several big time DTs in the league and really not a one of them is big time for being a run stopper. I am not minimizing what a run stopper does but looking at which position offers more scarcity; pass rushing DE wins by a big margin. The question becomes: Are either Adams or Anderson good enough DEs to be a better value pick than the more surefire Branch? I am not good enough of an evaluator to know.

[RMSkins]

I don't think we have stability at the CB postion until we know for a fact Springs is going to stay, because outside of Springs, Smoot, and Rogers who do we have? Ade Jimoh???. I also wanted to add I think we should start Rogers, Smoot at CB this year and let Springs either play SS or come in on certain packages, and at nickel. We really need to get Carlos going here I think he is going to be a good young CB for us teamed with Smoot.

[jrocx69]

Arent LB's and FS/SS 's a little more notorious for "biting" PA than CB's?? just my opinion i could be wrong

[Daseal]

Carriker is a great player. Unfortunately for us, he's been flying up the draft boards. NFL radio predicted he'd be a top 10 pick come draft time. Perhaps even the first DE taken by either us or Arizona.

I think we're okay at DT. Nothing great, but okay. At this point, I wouldn't even be opposed to trading away our first this year for a first and a 3rd or 1st and 2nd next year. Depending on which team we can get it from.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I think we're okay at DT. Nothing great, but okay. At this point, I wouldn't even be opposed to trading away our first this year for a first and a 3rd or 1st and 2nd next year. Depending on which team we can get it from.

Man, I wish I the faith that others do in our defensive tackles.

To me, relying on Griffin, Salave'a, Golston and Montgomery for another season against the run leaves us about as vulnerable as walking around high school in our underwear.

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Man, I wish I the faith that others do in our defensive tackles.

To me, relying on Griffin, Salave'a, Golston and Montgomery for another season against the run leaves us about as vulnerable as walking around high school in our underwear.

same here

[Crat92]

Good people that's all well and good, but how does that translate to the NFL? How good was he against competition? What did the Buckeyes do against that no.1 rated rush D? The Chris Wells run alone was longer than their per game average! People there are no Northwesterns or Indianas in the NFL. All I'm sayin is the guy is okay.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Crat92

Good people that's all well and good, but how does that translate to the NFL? How good was he against competition? What did the Buckeyes do against that no.1 rated rush D? The Chris Wells run alone was longer than their per game average! People there are no Northwesterns or Indianas in the NFL. All I'm sayin is the guy is okay.

Then you must really hate the draft -- because you can make that statement about every single college player! Pick your favorite draft prospect -- we could challenge you with the very same questions!

There is NO guarantee that any stud in college will dominate in the NFL. You still have to go by the best information that's available to you and make the best selection you can based on that info.

The draft is a crap shoot. Nothing more.

[Crat92]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Then you must really hate the draft -- because you can make that statement about every single college player! Pick your favorite draft prospect -- we could challenge you with the very same questions!

There is NO guarantee that any stud in college will dominate in the NFL. You still have to go by the best information that's available to you and make the best selection you can based on that info.

The draft is a crap shoot. Nothing more.

Exactly! I think if we traded down he would still be there. No.6 is awfully high for a guy with a weight issue.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Crat92

Good people that's all well and good, but how does that translate to the NFL? How good was he against competition? What did the Buckeyes do against that no.1 rated rush D? The Chris Wells run alone was longer than their per game average! People there are no Northwesterns or Indianas in the NFL. All I'm sayin is the guy is okay.

I think you are failing to grasp the concept of an average. Long runs happen to everybody. Giving up a lot of long runs only makes a low YPC or YPG average even more impressive.

The whole season of data is infinately more valuble than one game.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I really like our secondary now with Smoot coming home. Now I think we need to focus on the Dline and Oline we need more pics and can get a couple of good players later in the first round, second round, and possibly the third.

Will we get an extra draft pick for losing Dock to free agency this year or next? I would think it would be at the end of the third round. I like where we are going from here. I like the FO not going crazy.

I have another interesting question for you guys if we clear out some of the front office why not brimg Charlie Casserly back to Washington. He's not doing much right now.

[MTK]

It's too late in the offseason to be thinking about a GM, we would have needed to make that move back in January.

[bigSkinsfan61]

okoye hes the answer he's a beast at the tender age of 19 hes only going to get bigger and better trade down or pick him...