Latest from JLC: The lying game

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

I'm not saying it makes sense or would be a good move (it would be maybe the dumbest move from an organization that has akmost become synonomous with dumb moves) but I really believe if he's there it will hapen. There is no way Danny will be able to pass him up.

I just dont think there were any really big free agents this time that would create the media frenzy JR would and the skins are all about media frenzy. If the football works out thats a bonus.

Lucky for you the chances of JR slipping to #6 are very slim.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Lucky for you the chances of JR slipping to #6 are very slim.

I think you mean lucky for the Skins. LOL

[TenandSix:Unacceptable]

Not so fast. It depends how they really feel about Campbell. The quarterback position dwarfs all others by comparison and it is the one position we have not had a real player at forever. If Campbell pans out and we have Russell in the fold and he shows signs we could trade him for a LOT of draft picks. We might suffer for it next year but shoring up the QB position ala NE and Indy should be priority number one for the health and future of this franchise. It would be highly controversial but if they have serious doubts about Campbell then drafting a QB if he falls is not crazy but thinking ahead. If they are really confident in Campbell there is zero need and they won't do it unless we don't get any acceptable offers for the pick in terms of value. We must all face the fact that if Campbell doesn't pan out we are sunk. I for one think we should always draft BPA until we KNOW we have a real QB.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

Not so fast. It depends how they really feel about Campbell. The quarterback position dwarfs all others by comparison and it is the one position we have not had a real player at forever. If Campbell pans out and we have Russell in the fold and he shows signs we could trade him for a LOT of draft picks. We might suffer for it next year but shoring up the QB position ala NE and Indy should be priority number one for the health and future of this franchise. It would be highly controversial but if they have serious doubts about Campbell then drafting a QB if he falls is not crazy but thinking ahead. If they are really confident in Campbell there is zero need and they won't do it unless we don't get any acceptable offers for the pick in terms of value. We must all face the fact that if Campbell doesn't pan out we are sunk. I for one think we should always draft BPA until we KNOW we have a real QB.

But that would be repetitive. Everyone was so shocked when we gave Brunell all that money and still went out and traded multiple draft picks to move up to get Campbell in the first round. Brunell was a proven starter in the league at that time, plus we had Ramsey, and yet we still got Campbell b/c we needed a future (Ramsey was a Spurrier/Snyder pick, Gibbs was never sold on him). I think the coaches are now confident in JC. Signing a young, effective backup wouldn't be a bad idea in the near future, but taking another QB in the 1st round would be a waste. If we did, it would be the 3rd time in 6 years. No one does that, especially a team with as few draft picks as the Skins.

[Campbell17]

What about Joe Thomas from Wisconsin, he is amazing no matter what, even though I am a Badger fan.

[MTK]

Griffin is done?

Dude just turned 30.

He's no spring chicken but I think he's far from done.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Griffin is done?

Dude just turned 30.

He's no spring chicken but I think he's far from done.

I dont know if he is done due to age, but his performance has been way below expected.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I dont know if he is done due to age, but his performance has been way below expected.

I hear what you're saying Hoo, but couldn't we say the same thing for the entire defense?

He had a decent year in 05......I wouldn't write him off yet.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I dont know if he is done due to age, but his performance has been way below expected.

Grif isn't done by any stretch. He has several good years left, the entire Defense was awful last year. Mostly due to injuries/no depth and the guys that can't be good won't be around. Holdman,Rumph,Arch,etc........

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Griffin is done?

Dude just turned 30.

He's no spring chicken but I think he's far from done.

So it's impossible for a player to top out before age 30?

Let me clarify though. When I say Cornelius Griffin is "done", I mean he is done being the penetrating force we saw in '04 and '05. He's still serviceable, and we shouldn't kick him off the team or anything. But he definitely needs help. I'd be shocked if they intend to rely on him as the chief run-stopper past 2007.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

So it's impossible for a player to top out before age 30?

Let me clarify though. When I say Cornelius Griffin is "done", I mean he is done being the penetrating force we saw in '04 and '05. He's still serviceable, and we shouldn't kick him off the team or anything. But he definitely needs help. I'd be shocked if they intend to rely on him as the chief run-stopper past 2007.

Of course it's not impossible.

When you said he's done, that to me sounded like you thought his playing days are over.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

I like the switch with Atlanta plus a second cuz then they could get Landry and then a dlineman like Moss, Spencer, McDonald, or whomever else @dl that might be available when they'd make the 2nd round pick. plus pick up Ian Scott.

[dmek25]

the only position in the draft this year that is really strong is defensive line. well, guess what? thats exactly what the skins need. if branch wasn't a lazy slob, he would be the pick. but the skins almost cant go wrong drafting any of the top 5 d linemen

[MTK]

Regardless, JR isn't falling that far and even if he did the Skins aren't taking him. That's like saying if Peterson falls to #6 they'll take him. Not gonna happen.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Regardless, JR isn't falling that far and even if he did the Skins aren't taking him. That's like saying if Peterson falls to #6 they'll take him. Not gonna happen.

I have been following this team long enough to know never to say never.