Norvel...Why Has Thou Stunk-Up Joint?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by jgalecpa

Amen.

This is the guy who was deemed "An offensive Genius" for winning with a team comprised of Troy Aikman, Emmit Smith and Michael Irving.

A friend of mine use to laugh at the "offensive genius" moniker. To paraphrase him "how can you be an offensive genius when you lose to Arizona EVERY TIME YOU PLAY THEM". lol.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

GIANTS??? although if they keep playing like they did last night...maybe ole tommy keeps his job for 1 more year...haha

What? A crazy must have it his way dictator for another crazy must have it his way dictator? Granted Marty is more well liked in the NFL, but he's not going to a place that already hates their coach...if he does, he's a complete moron.

[Redskins247]

You're right....not a good fit at all. Hell if the Chargers continue to suck, maybe they'll fire Norv and bring him back!!!

[The Zimmermans]

norv was the correct replacement for wade phillips, not marty Schottenheimer. With all those talented guys they need a disciplinarian, Marty was that.....just wait until merriman beats some guy to death in a bar after a loss

[70Chip]

I think it would be, "...why hast thou stunk-up the joint?"

[Monksdown]

In the NFL, you get the opportunity to learn from other people's mistakes. Why would they hire Norv? If you want to know if he can motivate your players, just watch his after game press conferences every time he's been a headcoach. I wanted to quit, and I wasnt even a player. He's boring, he doesnt instill confidence. Even the coaches I hate in this league do that to some point.

It's called eye contact Norv. Try it when addressing reporters you scared little girl.

And then he's been labeled an offensive genius. He must be an idiot savant. He should focus more on his strengths, quarterbacks. Let someone with a spine manage the team.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I think it would be, "...why hast thou stunk-up the joint?"

No 70Chip.....
It's more like the joint stunk up the joint.......

Then there was poor norv? Getting ready for his next J.O.B.

Damn norv does really well at the offensive cordinator job, but when it comes to head coach material....can't get it done!

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

You're right....not a good fit at all. Hell if the Chargers continue to suck, maybe they'll fire Norv and bring him back!!!

I'd hire him as a QB coach in a second! He would do wonders for Campbell!

[That Guy]

marty, waiver wire tony banks, and one audible... and he still managed to win 8 games.

some guys can coach, some can't.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by That Guy

marty, waiver wire tony banks, and one audible... and he still managed to win 8 games.

some guys can coach, some can't.

Marty had the #8 ranked defense that year.
While he did have Banks, we got a (at the time) Redskins record 1432 yards out of Stephen Davis.
In fact, the team is similar to what we have now. A strong D, and a Weak O. Strong running game, and a weak passing game.
Schottenhiemer had no real talent on offense (minus Davis), while Gibbs has a ton of talent he isn't taking advantage of. I fully think Schottenhiemer did a great job with what he had, problem was, Bruce Smith and more importantly, Darryl Green hated him. Green is an icon to us. He can do no wrong and when he came out publicly and said he doesn't like the way schott. was doing things, something totally uncharacteristic of Green...that sealed Marty's fate. Also, losing 5 out of the gate hurt, but then he won 5 straight, that helped. But then he lost 3 of 4 and the Skins were not in the playoff picture anymore hurt a little too. But mainly it was the players that did him in...and more importantly, Marty's wierd rules and inability to be flexible that killed him here. The SKins were smart to cut him loose, just as the Giants would be smart to cut Coughlin loose.

[redskinsfanatic]

phillip rivers is the chargers weak point.he is just as bad this year as he was good last year.i do'nt blame this on turner,it's more rivers and teams keying on lt that have them in a rut.

[Skinsfanmania]

Originally Posted by saden1

Someone in SD needs to get fired and I'm not talking about Norv. What a dysfunctional team and disgraceful performance!

I'm having fun watching Norv screw things up in SD outside of I had Philip Rivers as my fantasy QB the first couple of weeks in one of my leagues.

I would be happier if Norv was screwing things up in little D.

However, after this season jason garrett will be a head coach somewhere in the NFL and dallas will be back to square one.

[Rajmahal33]

The Chargers' first mistake was letting go of Drew Brees. I think now that they aren't in Marty ball mode, Rivers is being exposed as ppl have mentioned and Brees would've been the man for the job this year. I had always thought that the chargers shouldn't have made the trade/pick for Rivers that year in the first place...there were plenty of teams that needed a qb that would have given an arm and a leg for that pick.

Their 2nd mistake was letting go of Donnie Edwards. He was a leader for that team and it never sends the right message to lose talent like that

Then came the coaching changes. I agree that Marty shouldn't have been fired after going 14-2 but if u are going to fire the head coach, either promote a coordinator or bring a head coach who will work with the same coordinators AND RETAIN THOSE COORDINATORS. I actually give Snyder a lotta credit for keeping GW with the skins despite his numerous head coaching jobs after the 05 season. Even though 06 was a disaster, having GW here this year is undoubtably why we stand here at 2-1, with hope as the season continues.

Finally when making coaching changes that are so rash as to firing ur head coach and losing ur coordinators, i think an organization who has a superstar like LT should get his his input before it makes any decisions about the future of the franchise. People will say well, they don't owe him anything more than his paycheck...but this is not the write approach if u want to promote harmony and loyalty. If they struggle, like they are, u don't want a situation in which the star player wants out b/c he wasn't consulted and believes that THAT is the reason why they are struggling.

Nevertheless, things aren't as good or bad as they seem so i wouldn't be surprised if the chargers somehow turned this around and won their division. They are only 1 game back, right?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Rajmahal33

The Chargers' first mistake was letting go of Drew Brees. I think now that they aren't in Marty ball mode, Rivers is being exposed as ppl have mentioned and Brees would've been the man for the job this year. I had always thought that the chargers shouldn't have made the trade/pick for Rivers that year in the first place...there were plenty of teams that needed a qb that would have given an arm and a leg for that pick.

I want to point out that I agreed with everything else you said, EXCEPT the above quote.
I have to assume you live in another country and have missed how dead awful Brees has been. Due to this fact, I will give you his stats: 677 yards, 1 td and 7 int's.
Phillip Rivers: 886 yards, 5tds, and 6 int's. (also 1% better comp%).
I'm not saying Rivers is a super stud right now, but no freakin way can you say Brees is the answer when he has a better receiving core in NO than Rivers has in SD and is doing twice as bad.
It seems to be PC to jump on Rivers and dog him...but fact is, the plays have sucked for SD. Even ESPN saw that LT wasn't getting goal line looks, he wasn't even in the game for many plays. This has Norv stench all over it. He is a loser as a coach and he spread his infection in SD.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

norv was the correct replacement for wade phillips, not marty Schottenheimer. With all those talented guys they need a disciplinarian, Marty was that.....just wait until merriman beats some guy to death in a bar after a loss

can you explain this to me? why do you need a certain type coach, according to your talent level? and that guy hit it right on the head. some guys can, some guys cant