Marcus Spears Comments on Jason Campbell

[Cowell]

That really wasn't a slam by any stretch, I mean he was telling the truth. We are just going to take it as that because he's a Dallas player.

[squrrelco3]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Before anyone tells me about how great these WRs were or have the potential to be, allow me to remind everyone that the number of TD catches by S. Moss PLUS A. Randle El PLUS B. Lloyd for 2007 equals ZERO. Even the no-account Jets and Dolphins have WRs who have caught TDs this year.

Not only that but look at the number of drops and missed catches this year. Right now Campbell is 156 for 261 59.8% 9TDs and 7INTs

We know that Moss can account for roughly 6 drops alone at GB, ARE and others can account for a few as well. Plus a couple of those INT's went right through the hands of a receiver, so you figure the receivers catch at least 10 more passes that were sure fire in thier hands Campbell probably looks more like this:

166 for 261 63.6% 11 TD's 5 INT's. Thats a very decent year for a second year starter.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

Tony Romo is also in his first full season as a starter, but they let him throw the ball around and try to win games for his team...the worst part about it is everyone respect Campbells long ball and says its his best attribute. So if the QB isnt doing what he does best...how do you not blame the coaching...

Totally different set of circumstances. Romo has been in the system and with Dallas for 5 years. Although it is his first full year as a starter, he did have a rather large head start in development compared to JC.

JC was more of "trial by fire" when you compare his development to that of Romo.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Totally different set of circumstances. Romo has been in the system and with Dallas for 5 years. Although it is his first full year as a starter, he did have a rather large head start in development compared to JC.

JC was more of "trial by fire" when you compare his development to that of Romo.

Still he has a brand new coaching staff, new system, and he's even better, Campbell was in no way thrown into the fire, he had a year and a half to learn on the bench, sorry but 3 years for a QB is more than enough time, the NFL career is very short, the 5 year plan is unacceptable when you give up as much as we did to draft Campbell, remember Romo was a low draft pick and didn't cost much, you were afforded that luxury to sit him and rightly so. The fact is Romo spent 4 years in a different system and didn't miss a beat when the system changed when Phillips arrived.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by offiss

Still he has a brand new coaching staff, new system, and he's even better, Campbell was in no way thrown into the fire, he had a year and a half to learn on the bench, sorry but 3 years for a QB is more than enough time, the NFL career is very short, the 5 year plan is unacceptable when you give up as much as we did to draft Campbell, remember Romo was a low draft pick and didn't cost much, you were afforded that luxury to sit him and rightly so. The fact is Romo spent 4 years in a different system and didn't miss a beat when the system changed when Phillips arrived.

Not buying "new system" with respect to Romo, Tony Sparano has been his offensive coach for years and it is still his system that he and Sean Peyton brought to Dallas. The system has not changed. I know most hear about Jason Garret, but Sparano is just as good, and he helps Garrett more than you hear about.

And Romo was never drafted. Yeah, he was an undrafted free agent.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Not buying "new system" with respect to Romo, Tony Sparano has been his offensive coach for years and it is still his system that he and Sean Peyton brought to Dallas. The system has not changed. I know most hear about Jason Garret, but Sparano is just as good, and he helps Garrett more than you hear about.

And Romo was never drafted. Yeah, he was an undrafted free agent.

I am going off of TO's comments when he said that the Boy's are doing things differently on offense this year compared to last season.

Undrafted? I guess that's as low as you can go. lol

It's still nice to know that an undrafted QB is head and shoulders better than our #1 pick. Just wonderful.:frusty:

[firstdown]

Its not that people are critical but the ones who cannot find one good thing to say from Snyder down to water boy I just cannot figure out why even cheer for the team. Thats what I just do not get.
Chrisl4064 you may have issues with whats going on but its not in every post you make they are the ones I was talking about. If you do not like one single thing that is done then what is there to cheer for or like in that team.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Its not that people are critical but the ones who cannot find one good thing to say from Snyder down to water boy I just cannot figure out why even cheer for the team. Thats what I just do not get.
Chrisl4064 you may have issues with whats going on but its not in every post you make they are the ones I was talking about. If you do not like one single thing that is done then what is there to cheer for or like in that team.

They are hopefully cheering for change, some people don't like smoke being blown up their a**, and that is pretty much what Gibbs has been doing since his return, you can only cry wolf so often before people turn a deaf ear to you. If Gibbs wants people to take him seriously he needs to show progress, and he doesn't.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Its not that people are critical but the ones who cannot find one good thing to say from Snyder down to water boy I just cannot figure out why even cheer for the team. Thats what I just do not get.
Chrisl4064 you may have issues with whats going on but its not in every post you make they are the ones I was talking about. If you do not like one single thing that is done then what is there to cheer for or like in that team.

I see where you are coming from. I understand your frustration, but I think that most "Critical fans" just love the Skins so much and when we don't do well it hurts alot and makes them sad. So they express those feelings via anger. Also I think those fans realize their team has potential, and that is why they are critical.

I mean be honest, if we had no talent and a bad coaching staff I would not care as much. But I think we have both, therefore I expect success. But even in our worst season, I watch every single game, and I love them all. It is my passion, and you have realize I don't remember anything from Gibbs first tenure because I was too young. I have seen pretty much all losing seasons, but I watch every game. So telling fans to find another team really isn't the right suggestion. We should all try to understand what makes people fans, even though the tough times.

[MTK]

LOL blame Gibbs at any cost. Typical.

I think SC has a valid point regarding the WRs. Moss and Randle El have both been dinged up which has hurt their effectiveness. The fact that Thrash stepped in and had perhaps the best day our WRs have had all year is pretty startling and says something about Moss and ARE. Don't get me wrong on ARE, he's had a decent season and has come close to breaking the goal line a few times, but Moss has been a huge disappointment.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

LOL blame Gibbs at any cost. Typical.

I think SC has a valid point regarding the WRs. Moss and Randle El have both been dinged up which has hurt their effectiveness. The fact that Thrash stepped in and had perhaps the best day our WRs have had all year is pretty startling and says something about Moss and ARE. Don't get me wrong on ARE, he's had a decent season and has come close to breaking the goal line a few times, but Moss has been a huge disappointment.

I really think Moss is just tired of the same stagnant offense, football is a tough sport it's very hard to get up for if you are not rewarded, a guy like Moss is a home run hitter and Gibbs has him bunting, yes he does have to stay healthy, but I don't think he's in a big hurry either.

ARE has really impressed me with his over all receiving skills, but to put
Thrash ahead of either because he caught a couple of short TD passes?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by offiss

I really think Moss is just tired of the same stagnant offense, football is a tough sport it's very hard to get up for if you are not rewarded, a guy like Moss is a home run hitter and Gibbs has him bunting, yes he does have to stay healthy, but I don't think he's in a big hurry either.

ARE has really impressed me with his over all receiving skills, but to put
Thrash ahead of either because he caught a couple of short TD passes?

I said he had perhaps the best day that all the WRs have had all year. It wasn't just the short TD passes it was some of the other balls he caught down the field that were impressive and really set the tone for the passing game. I believe he had two 31 yard receptions.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I said he had perhaps the best day that all the WRs have had all year. It wasn't just the short TD passes it was some of the other balls he caught down the field that were impressive and really set the tone for the passing game. I believe he had two 31 yard receptions.

I hear ya, I just think the other WR's are much better, why their production has been down needs to be explored more deeply.

You do know what my answer to that one is I am sure?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by offiss

I hear ya, I just think the other WR's are much better, why their production has been down needs to be explored more deeply.

You do know what my answer to that one is I am sure?

I agree the offense needs to open up more, but I'm sure even you were encouraged by some of what you saw last week with the no huddle offense and JC going down the field much more often. I really hope we see more of that this weekend.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

LOL blame Gibbs at any cost. Typical.

I think SC has a valid point regarding the WRs. Moss and Randle El have both been dinged up which has hurt their effectiveness. The fact that Thrash stepped in and had perhaps the best day our WRs have had all year is pretty startling and says something about Moss and ARE. Don't get me wrong on ARE, he's had a decent season and has come close to breaking the goal line a few times, but Moss has been a huge disappointment.

If we must insist on blaming Gibbs, if anything blame him as President for not having the right pieces in place for the offense to succeed. The gameplan is there, the talent (whether through skills or injuries) isn't always there.

Either way, I agree with Cowell. These comments are being blown way out of proportion