Why All The Hate Toward The Patriots?

[Lady Brave]

I don't get where people think Brady is good looking. The dude has a freakishly massive cranium. You could post a billboard on that forehead.

[SkinEmAll]

I have to tell ya that I agree. His forehead is huge! Also I must admit when I saw he was doing some ad for a magazine without a shirt on, I laughed my ass off. Im not one to usually judge a dudes appearance, but since I have a great dislike for mr.brady, I couldnt help but notice how un-buff he is. I dont know, maybe I thought he would have atleast a little chisel somewhere, a 6 pack or something for crying out loud. I mean we are talking about the Tom Brady.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Let me ask you this tough question. We all love Gibbs. But would you rather have a high character guy who isn't a good coach and has a losing record? Or would you rather have a guy who is terrible with the media, has a terrible personality, but wins?

I care about character. But some of the things Bill B. has been accused of is not a big deal to me.

That's not a tough question at all.

I'll take 6-7 with Joe Gibbs' character over 13-0 with Belichick's character any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mheisig

That's not a tough question at all.

I'll take 6-7 with Joe Gibbs' character over 13-0 with Belichick's character any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Well I guess you like losing then. Personally I'm tired of it and I'd rather be 13-0. Bill B. isn't as bad as everyone says he is. I know his players like him and that's cause he coaches them hard and they seem to respond well to it.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well I guess you like losing then. Personally I'm tired of it and I'd rather be 13-0. Bill B. isn't as bad as everyone says he is. I know his players like him and that's cause he coaches them hard and they seem to respond well to it.

They respond well to him since Brady became the QB . Belichick is the Ringo Starr of the New England Patriots. He's just tagging along for the ride.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well I guess you like losing then. Personally I'm tired of it and I'd rather be 13-0. Bill B. isn't as bad as everyone says he is. I know his players like him and that's cause he coaches them hard and they seem to respond well to it.

Did I say that I "like losing"? All I said was that I'll take character and a tough season over a douchebag with a winning season.

The whole question is a false dichotomy to begin with anyway. Tony Dungy is, by anyone's account, a standup guy, and he certainly doesn't have a problem winning.

The alternatives aren't "immoral, unethical douchebag who always wins" or "really nice, ethical guy with character who always loses." There are other options.

[mheisig]

I think it all stems from Belichick. Belichick has done a pretty good job of establishing himself as an asshole in the public's eye. Short tempered with the media, shoving cameramen, a sordid personal life, and add to that the latest cheating scandal and you have a guy that a lot of people find it really hard to root for.

I can't stand Tom Brady, but like someone else here said, that's more for an indefinable quality of "douchebagedness." Honestly I've never really heard him say anything too crazy, he just strikes me as an arrogant pretty boy. Some people like that, some people don't, I just happen to not like it.

I'd say Belichick's character is seriously in question, whereas Brady is just kind of a douche. Like Sheriff said, some people care about character, some don't.

Quite often football is more than "just a game." If it were just a casual game, then yeah, I can see not caring as much. Football has always (to me, at least) been about more than that.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by mheisig

I can't stand Tom Brady, but like someone else here said, that's more for an indefinable quality of "douchebagedness." Honestly I've never really heard him say anything too crazy, he just strikes me as an arrogant pretty boy. Some people like that, some people don't, I just happen to not like it.

There are plenty of little snide remarks that he spits out from behind his pretty boy smile that just make me smile everytime he gets flattened by a 300 pound defensive lineman. After the Ravens game last week; when asked about the 4th & 1 play in which Brady was stuffed, but the Pats got a do-over because Rex Ryan called a timeout, Brady said that he would've had the first down, but he heard the whistle... sure you did asshole...

And then there's Brady the whiney bitch... Why is it ok for Tom Brady to bitch about holding or pass interference anytime he doesn't complete an effing pass? And if one of his passes is grossly over/underthrown, he screams at the receiver for running the wrong route. It's apparently never his fault.

And why is it ok for Tom Brady to run up to Anthony Smith and run his mouth for at least 30 seconds after throwing a touchdown? If that's not the definition of taunting, I don't know what is.

[doxiechic12000]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

There are plenty of little snide remarks that he spits out from behind his pretty boy smile that just make me smile everytime he gets flattened by a 300 pound defensive lineman. After the Ravens game last week; when asked about the 4th & 1 play in which Brady was stuffed, but the Pats got a do-over because Rex Ryan called a timeout, Brady said that he would've had the first down, but he heard the whistle... sure you did asshole...

And then there's Brady the whiney bitch... Why is it ok for Tom Brady to bitch about holding or pass interference anytime he doesn't complete an effing pass? And if one of his passes is grossly over/underthrown, he screams at the receiver for running the wrong route. It's apparently never his fault.

And why is it ok for Tom Brady to run up to Anthony Smith and run his mouth for at least 30 seconds after throwing a touchdown? If that's not the definition of taunting, I don't know what is.

The answer is simple, he has a 4 inch tweeter.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by doxiechic12000

The answer is simple, he has a 4 inch tweeter.

What's wrong with having a 4 inch tweeter?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

There are plenty of little snide remarks that he spits out from behind his pretty boy smile that just make me smile everytime he gets flattened by a 300 pound defensive lineman. After the Ravens game last week; when asked about the 4th & 1 play in which Brady was stuffed, but the Pats got a do-over because Rex Ryan called a timeout, Brady said that he would've had the first down, but he heard the whistle... sure you did asshole...

And then there's Brady the whiney bitch... Why is it ok for Tom Brady to bitch about holding or pass interference anytime he doesn't complete an effing pass? And if one of his passes is grossly over/underthrown, he screams at the receiver for running the wrong route. It's apparently never his fault.

And why is it ok for Tom Brady to run up to Anthony Smith and run his mouth for at least 30 seconds after throwing a touchdown? If that's not the definition of taunting, I don't know what is.

I have NEVER seen Tom Brady yell at a WR. Not sure what you are talking about on that one.

And A. Smith ran his mouth first.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I have NEVER seen Tom Brady yell at a WR. Not sure what you are talking about on that one.

And A. Smith ran his mouth first.

A. Smith was an idiot and deserved whatever trash-talking came his way. That said, TB is still an a**.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

A. Smith was an idiot and deserved whatever trash-talking came his way. That said, TB is still an a**.

And as I said, if Brady was a Redskin, and he won 3 SB's for us, we'd all be on his jock.

What I find so funny is people that really know football, know that Brady is one of the hardest working guys on the pats. He's a true professional and studies his craft. You don't become as good as he is w/out putting in the time. Look how much better he is now then he was back in 01. It's like night and day. He can't help it the way he looks. Peyton Manning is the one who is on TV every 5 minutes, not Brady. I see Tomlinson and Bush on TV more than Brady. Brady could have way more endorsement deals than anybody if that is what he wanted. And the one TV ad I did see him in he wouldn't do the ad w/out his O-linemen. So IMO people need to chill on all the Brady hating.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I have NEVER seen Tom Brady yell at a WR. Not sure what you are talking about on that one.

And A. Smith ran his mouth first.

I just love this argument about how Brady is a douche. I've never seen him being disrespectuful, at least publicly, toward a teammate. LT, on the other, Mr. Class of the NFL, has had open spats with Philip Rivers more than once. When he does it, he's just fired up and being competitive. When Brady does it, he's a whiny bitch.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I just love this argument about how Brady is a douche. I've never seen him being disrespectuful, at least publicly, toward a teammate. LT, on the other, Mr. Class of the NFL, has had open spats with Philip Rivers more than once. When he does it, he's just fired up and being competitive. When Brady does it, he's a whiny bitch.

When it comes down to it LT is a little baby who needs a milk bottle. If he's got a problem w/ Rivers then do it behind closed doors. He keeps showing him up on the sidelines. What a crybaby. Oh.. and he cried like a little bitch when the pats players were doing Merriman's little stupid dance after the playoff loss last year. He looked so stupid complaining about that crap. Merriman shouldn't do shit like that cause it always comes back to bite you in the ass. You don't see Vrabel or Seymour doing dances when they sack the QB.

Marty S. has got to be sitting back laughing his ass off right about now.