Collins' INT/Moss' "give up"

[jdlea]

That play wasn't on either of them 100%. I would say that it is more on Moss than Collins though. I think it was a terrible pass, it should not have been throw. I would say that he shouldn't have thrown that ball 100% of the time. I still don't see what Collins saw to make him put that football up. However, Santana can't stop on that route. There was absolutely no reason for it! Play to the whistle! I was offended that Santana Moss got to keep his jersey after not looking for/locating/fighting for the football on that play. There is no explanation that will satisfy me as to why Moss didn't fight for the ball or at least try to break up the pass.

During the play, before the pick or the return, (and well before Collinsworth's analysis) I was screaming at the TV, "Why the f@#k did you stop?!" I still don't believe there was a valid reason for Santana to stop the route and there is no explanation that I think I can stomach.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Ok so everyone seems to think Moss gave up on that play. And you guys listened to the announcer Chris Collinsworthless give worthless analysis once again. he said that Moss gave up because the DB didnt bit on his post corner route.

This is partially true, Moss stopped running bc the DB didn't "bite", but why did the DB not bite? That is because Todd and Santana were on sync that play. Todd threw the ball out before Santana made his cuts.

So by the time Moss looked up the DB keyed in on the throw not because he knew where the ball was gonna go preroute or something.

Todd made a poor throw way too early in Santana's route. I think this is purely Todd's fault. Those with DVR I urge to go back, mute the sound, and look at the play.

All of that doesn't excuse him from giving up on making the tackle!

He could have looked at the ball, defender, and once he saw him with the ball he said he "thought the play was blown dead, but didnt hear a whistle."

PS
THEN ITS NOT F*ckin Dead if u dont hear a whistle. He could at the very least made a tackle. I was watching the game and by the time he looked and saw what was good, Moss wasnt even on the camera shot when Trufant headed for the endzone.

I dont buy anything, the man gave up. Pure and simple

[saden1]

Moss was running hard most of the day and was double covered all day. Collins was under heavy pressure and I suspect Moss wasn't expecting the ball to go to him to tell you the truth. I did notice a few times where Moss wasn't running full speed but then again the route and the play might have called for lesser speed. Anywho, unless someone explains what happened there is no point in speculating.

[GottaBigButt]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Todd made a poor throw way too early in Santana's route. I think this is purely Todd's fault.

Hrumph. The reason it was a poor throw and was thrown too early was because of the OL guy (Fabinin?) getting over like a rented mule and having his body bulldozed into Collin's throwing motion. You already know Collins can't move, so he couldn't get out of the way, but that's why it was forced a bit too early, and also why the pass looked more like a punt.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GottaBigButt

Hrumph. The reason it was a poor throw and was thrown too early was because of the OL guy (Fabinin?) getting over like a rented mule and having his body bulldozed into Collin's throwing motion. You already know Collins can't move, so he couldn't get out of the way, but that's why it was forced a bit too early, and also why the pass looked more like a punt.

Best screen name ever!

I think you're Randy Thomas. You say you gotta big butt, and we all know how Thomas loves to cozy up to the buffet table. Plus, you're calling out Jason Fabini as if to say "If I, Randy Thomas, were playing that wouldn't have happened."

[GottaBigButt]

No I'm not Randy Thomas, but my lazy fat ass did stay at a holiday inn express last night.