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Old 01-13-2008, 09:18 AM   #1
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Re: Green Bay can run on Seattle but we couldn't!!

It shouldn't be news to anyone on here that our oline, while decimated by injuries, was not very good. Compare our team to what GB did or what Jax, NYG, NE, do on the oline. There are holes to run in w/ these teams. CP had a good year w/ an average to below avg oline.
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Old 01-13-2008, 10:32 AM   #2
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Re: Green Bay can run on Seattle but we couldn't!!

No way in hell is redskins 05 defense better then this years, thats bullshit. Plus, when we had them at home we didn't get beat up in the last 12 minutes of the game...... we won..
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Old 01-13-2008, 10:21 AM   #3
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Re: Green Bay can run on Seattle but we couldn't!!

The snow and the weather had very little to do with it.
After reading this thread I went back to look at both of the games I DVR'd (Redskin vs Seattle and the GB vs Seattle) and noticed one huge difference between what Green Bay did and Redskins did not. The Green Bay tightends and FB blocked the shit out of the Seattle LB's. In our game the Seattle LB's were flying all over the field and in our backfield on most run plays. In the Green Bay game the Green Bay TE's and FB controlled the Seattle LB's. On some of the long GB runs the Seattle LB's were getting the snot knocked out of them with some great blocks.
Our TE's are not known for their blocking prowess. Cooley is a great receiver but not a great blocker. Cooley fans please do not get upset. The only really good blocker we have is FB/H-back Mike Sellers. We need to look at drafting or signing a TE or two that can knock people backwards.
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Old 01-13-2008, 10:50 AM   #4
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Re: Green Bay can run on Seattle but we couldn't!!

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The snow and the weather had very little to do with it.
After reading this thread I went back to look at both of the games I DVR'd (Redskin vs Seattle and the GB vs Seattle) and noticed one huge difference between what Green Bay did and Redskins did not. The Green Bay tightends and FB blocked the shit out of the Seattle LB's. In our game the Seattle LB's were flying all over the field and in our backfield on most run plays. In the Green Bay game the Green Bay TE's and FB controlled the Seattle LB's. On some of the long GB runs the Seattle LB's were getting the snot knocked out of them with some great blocks.
Our TE's are not known for their blocking prowess. Cooley is a great receiver but not a great blocker. Cooley fans please do not get upset. The only really good blocker we have is FB/H-back Mike Sellers. We need to look at drafting or signing a TE or two that can knock people backwards.
I was surprised Yoder wasn't in there more to block. Cooley was absolutely misused/abused early in that Seahawk's game by being made to stay back and help block
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Old 01-13-2008, 10:56 AM   #5
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I was surprised Yoder wasn't in there more to block. Cooley was absolutely misused/abused early in that Seahawk's game by being made to stay back and help block
Plus he is not a very good blocker.
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Old 01-13-2008, 10:37 AM   #6
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Re: Green Bay can run on Seattle but we couldn't!!

I belive we did better two years ago because Gibbs offense was run set up the pass. The blocking was better for that reason. Al's offense I thought I read in the post or somewhere is pass set up the run. Blocking is definitly an issue. I'm not sure if giving total control to Al is the answer or not. I'll also whine and say I belive Seattle's CB were grabbing arms and waists on a lot of the plays and hittng our WR beyond the 5 yrds. No penaltys called. I kept thinking about the Patriots and how the rule was made because of them and Seatle was doing the very same thing. I guess the best team won though. I'm glad they lost. I hated their fans comments.
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Old 01-13-2008, 10:45 AM   #7
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Re: Green Bay can run on Seattle but we couldn't!!

heyer is fine, i think he should start there next year and move jansen down inside to left guard. then you have booker, kendall, and a rookie as your backups. but with fabini, kendall at guard i dont know how you thought there would ever be that much room to run esspecially since neither of them is particularly athletic. we are at our best when our guards are pulling and we are getting to the edges, or even running those inside traps and zones that cp can hit going downhill. but you have to have good guards in order to do that. green bay has an awesome line if you ask me and they are young. really justifies them playing those rookies last year and letting them learn on the fly. playing at lambeau and in seattle are two different things though. tough place to go play when its snowing like crazy and the crowd is mad.
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:48 PM   #8
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Re: Green Bay can run on Seattle but we couldn't!!

The fact that GB was able to run on Seattle has nothing to do with the fact we could not. The weather was obviously a huge factor in slowing down Seattle's D. Their strength is speed and getting after the passer, and the weather totally neutralized them.
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:05 PM   #9
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The fact that GB was able to run on Seattle has nothing to do with the fact we could not. The weather was obviously a huge factor in slowing down Seattle's D. Their strength is speed and getting after the passer, and the weather totally neutralized them.

Yes, this is very accurate.
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:05 PM   #10
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This game has made me sick to my stomach. We could not give Portis no room to run nor protect Collins and Green Bay is making it look easy. We have to really work on our o-line first and foremost. Ryan Grant is making Seatte's run defense seem like the worst in the league.
It's called home field advantage.
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Old 01-14-2008, 09:27 PM   #11
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Re: Green Bay can run on Seattle but we couldn't!!

If you compare how we played against Seattle and how GB did, I think one of the most worrying aspects of this game was that if you take away the two early scores that came from GB turn overs this has to be one of the most one sided p/off games I can remember. I’m sure the weather played a part but I think it really emphasizes how much we have to improve the O Line and maybe at WR to be even close next year
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Old 01-15-2008, 07:58 PM   #12
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Re: Green Bay can run on Seattle but we couldn't!!

I hate to say it, yes the o-line wasn't great, but also the noise did have to do something with it. The line was getting off the snap late allowing the rushers make great jumps and get into the backfield. I hate to admit that their twelfth man had something to do with their win, but they were a factor.
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Old 01-16-2008, 10:30 PM   #13
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Re: Green Bay can run on Seattle but we couldn't!!

yeah the Hog Mollies on the front line blocking makes it a lil easier also
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Old 01-16-2008, 11:45 PM   #14
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Re: Green Bay can run on Seattle but we couldn't!!

While I was definitely whining, I do believe with current technology, it will eventually go too far in the NFL. Have we reached that point? Maybe. It would be in the best interest for the NFL to keep an eye on it.

Using the noise level in Seattle as an example. If it is true and Seattle has a stadium specially designed for noise, crowd noise so loud that it virtually shuts down a opposing teams offense. Don’t you think this takes away from the game? You want to tell me that you would prefer to watch as other team start to design noise advantage stadiums to the point were the two teams normally fight it out and the best or strongest team wins is not the deciding factor, but who is the loudest?

Again, I have search the internet for any article that would support the "rumor" that Seattle has a specially made stadium and found nothing. All I have is two BG playoff losses and hearsay. To add more hearsay, Sellers stated the he believed noise was being pumped. Did he pipe up because when the Skins were in the Redzone, Sellers single handedly screwed up and burned a possible valuable timeout because he didn’t shift? Was this because he had his head up his rearend or because he couldn’t hear the QB who was 6 feet away?

All I have left to say is thank god we had our defense to make an otherwise frustrating game into something I can rant about 2 weeks later.
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:20 AM   #15
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Re: Green Bay can run on Seattle but we couldn't!!

Offense had a bad game........the old saying..."any given sunday"
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