giants trying to trade 31st pick for cb hall

[diehardskin2982]

Hall is worth more than the 31st pick. He is a franchise CB. I would give up the 21st in a second for Hall. the kid can play!

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Hall is worth more than the 31st pick. He is a franchise CB. I would give up the 21st in a second for Hall. the kid can play!

If it where only that easy. In the Giants case it would be a 31st pick in the first round, plus the contract Hall is seeking OR draft pick, plus picking up his current contract (a lot of potential negative factors). In our case the scenario would likely be a 21st pick in the first round, plus in the neighborhood of 8-10 million per year, the kind of cash Hall is seeking.

Big bucks, especially for a team like the Skins, with cap issues being resolved now. This might be a hard deal for most teams to pull off, due to the loss of draft pick and the kind of cash Hall is seeking, I believe he currently only has one year left on his contract with Atlanta.

I don't see him being approached by the Skins due to the loss of a 1st rounder and his potential cost. This could be a tuff deal for most teams to work through. Unless a first round draft pick/money is not a factor or out weighed by the need of a upper end CB.

[XXVI]

We need to stop worrying about wideout so much. We got Reche and Anthony Mix. Mix I think will be a decent possesion reciever. He's 6'6'' for gods sake. Just throw a Randy Moss ball, he doesn't have to be fast. Lol...

[That Guy]

for the talent, the 21 pick is a great deal for us, but the bad rep has been justly earned and it's hard to judge it's effects on the team. he's better than any CBs in the draft, but i'm still wary of his personality issues, which makes it a tough call.

if we give him a contract where we can void or trade him without a huge penalty, it'd make it easier, but you'd still lose out if you had to use it (lower trade value, less interest, wasted pick, etc).

if we could get him and trade springs, that might make it a little more bearable... when in doubt, pass though. no move is better than a bad move.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by That Guy

for the talent, the 21 pick is a great deal for us, but the bad rep has been justly earned and it's hard to judge it's effects on the team. he's better than any CBs in the draft, but i'm still wary of his personality issues, which makes it a tough call.

if we give him a contract where we can void or trade him without a huge penalty, it'd make it easier, but you'd still lose out if you had to use it (lower trade value, less interest, wasted pick, etc).

if we could get him and trade springs, that might make it a little more bearable... when in doubt, pass though. no move is better than a bad move.

What do you think would have been the better move? The Falcons trading DeAngelo Hall for the #31 pick, or the Redskins trading the #6 overall for Lance Briggs and the #31?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What do you think would have been the better move? The Falcons trading DeAngelo Hall for the #31 pick, or the Redskins trading the #6 overall for Lance Briggs and the #31?

well, it would've been the #6 and mcintosh for the #31 and briggs, so it's easy to go with hall on that one. they can get rid of a bad locker room guy and end up with the #31, which is high enough to draft his (very very cheap, but not as talented) replacement.

on briggs, not only are you giving up insane trade value and money, but you've got guys like vilma that could be cheaper and less costly to trade for. I really don't think we need briggs as much as other positions either.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by That Guy

well, it would've been the #6 and mcintosh for the #31 and briggs, so it's easy to go with hall on that one. they can get rid of a bad locker room guy and end up with the #31, which is high enough to draft his (very very cheap, but not as talented) replacement.

on briggs, not only are you giving up insane trade value and money, but you've got guys like vilma that could be cheaper and less costly to trade for. I really don't think we need briggs as much as other positions either.

Rocky is what they wanted, but that's not what we were offering

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Rocky is what they wanted, but that's not what we were offering

i know, but without him, there wasn't a deal.

[Paintrain]

I usually hate when people post things like this but I hope my time on the board and rep gives me some credibility on this one.. I flew into Atlanta last night and Alge Crumpler & his agent were at the same baggage claim with me (they just got in from Indy), I ended up sitting next to the agent on the rental car bus & talking NFL for a few minutes.. Crumpler is headed to TB, Tenn or Seattle, Dunn is likely next to be cut by Atlanta (they are trying to get all of the vocal guys out of the locker room) and D. Hall is "90% sure" to be headed to the NYG..

[Stuck in TX]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

thanks but no thanks...hes on sportscenter every other week...getting burned deep

this is true but his help back there is......(crickets)........anyone?

we have at least two proven DBs that can help him, and Hall is good enough to where he does not have to be developed all that much. I am in no way fond of using our first rounder on him, but if we could find a way not to, him, and the addition of Florence would allow us to get a sleeper CB later in the draft and not have to suffer through his development.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by Stuck in TX

this is true but his help back there is......(crickets)........anyone?

we have at least two proven DBs that can help him, and Hall is good enough to where he does not have to be developed all that much.

That is true Hall has no good safety help in ATL and with LaRon playing center field will allow Hall to play more aggressive at the line and put his hands on receivers like he does Steve Smith.

[diehardskin2982]

he is younger, faster, and at this point in time better than Springs. According to NFL network he has 2 years left on his contract. It is already known that springs doesn't take pay cuts, we pay intirely too much for him. So I'd trade Springs and a 4rth conditional 5th for Hall. In all I'd say its a better deal because they get 2 possible 3 players and one of those guys is proven in this league.

[goingdeep]

hall would be a great pick up .he young and shut down cb

[mcarey032]

Yeah I would be inclined to agree about the whole trouble aspect of D. Hall. I think that the Redskins are going to have enough to contend with next year in regards to chemistry and they really don't need someone who was a malcontent. I do realize that Bobby Petrino was an idiot and has no class, but Hall was making comments in the media when he should have been keeping his mouth shut.

[goingdeep]

the giants say no to trade now