The 6 Million Dollar Shopping Spree

[Coff]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

As as a general rule, no move is always a favorable alternative to the wrong moves.

That sounds nice, but it's kind of a platitude. After all, a GM and an owner don't sit around saying, "Hmm, should we make no move, or a bad one?" The fact is, risks have to be taken. As far as the Skins go though, it might be good advice for no other reason than it recommends caution, the lack of which has been known to plague us.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Coff

That sounds nice, but it's kind of a platitude. After all, a GM and an owner don't sit around saying, "Hmm, should we make no move, or a bad one?" The fact is, risks have to be taken. As far as the Skins go though, it might be good advice for no other reason than it recommends caution, the lack of which has been known to plague us.

Yeah kinda sounds like the old hindsight is 20/20 deal. Nobody sets out to make a bad deal. Some moves are perhaps smarter than others, but sometimes no matter how smart you try to be shit just doesn't work out for whatever reason.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's the eve of Free Agency, so I thought we should preview the FA season with a list of what you'd do with as the Redskins GM. Key is, you are on a limited budget (because you are the Redskins GM), and you have to offer players a fair market value contract to come play here. Here's my Washington Redskins shopping list:

1. D.J. Hackett, WR
Contract Offered: 7 years, 5 mil SB in 2008, 5 mil SB in 2009, total value of 29 million. 2008 Cap Number: 1.5 million (0.78 base + .7 SB allocation)
Hackett is the number one guy on my list, so he gets the longest deal of any of my free agent targets. Hackett is two years younger than Randle El and Moss, so the hope is that he's the team's No. 1 receiver if not by the middle of the season, then no later than 2010.

2. Jeff Faine, C
Contract Offered: 6 years, 4 mil SB in 2008, 4 mil SB in 2009, total value of 21 million. 2008 Cap Number: 1.45 million (0.78 base + 0.667 SB allocation)
Faine is a 27 year old center (NFL starter since his rookie year) who could start for us right away if he could beat out Rabach in camp. Either way, he would be the interior staple of the OL of the future which would include a 2008 draft pick at guard, and Heyer at RT to compliment Samuels and Thomas.

3. Kris Wilson, TE
Contract Offered: 5 years, 6 million SB, total value of 17 million. 2008 Cap Number: 2.0 million (.78 base + 1.2 mil SB allocation)
Wilson would come right in as the 2nd TE for us, and would see a lot of playing time in the WCO. He would be a staple on special teams, and would force a camp battle between Todd Yoder and Tyler Ecker to make the team as the 3rd TE. Wilson is a good blocker who also is a threat to catch the ball (what a concept!).

4. Brian Kelly, CB/S
Contract Offered: 3 years, 4 million SB, total value of 11 million.
2008 Cap Number: 2.1 million (.78 base + 1.33 SB allocation)
Kelly would fill not only the role of the ever important nickel position while Rogers misses time, but also play as the third safety once Rogers returns. Kelly would likely only play one year here before we release him, but the 3 year deal gives contract flexibility.

5. Mark Brunell, QB
Contract Offered: $950,000 total value, no signing bonus.
2008 Cap Number: $950,000
Brunell would come in as the 2nd QB, but would have to compete for the job. If he gets cut, he gets no money.

These moves would allow the team to add depth for this season, with players who would progress into bigger roles in the future when their contract value skyrockets (another great concept!). The total value of those contracts would only be 6.4 ish million once the rule of 51 is accounted for. To achieve this, the Redskins simply have to restructure Betts and Portis, and then they will still have enough money for the rookie pool to fill all other holes on the team.

Post your shopping spree if you wish.

Nice post Tripp but I don't really think we need any of these guys except Hackett. Hackett would make a lot of sense. Rabach has been a solid center for us. I don't think there is a need to replace him right now. Do you? I'd rather us focus on replacing Kendall. I think Yoder had been a good back-up to Cooley. Kellly has played in the Tampa 2 defense his whole career. I'm not sure he's a good fit here. And there is no need for Brunell since Collins resigned. Collins earned the right to be JC's back-up. We really need to draft a young guy to bring along in the system as 3rd string and then 2nd when Collins retires.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Nice post Tripp but I don't really think we need any of these guys except Hackett. Hackett would make a lot of sense. Rabach has been a solid center for us. I don't think there is a need to replace him right now. Do you? I'd rather us focus on replacing Kendall. I think Yoder had been a good back-up to Cooley. Kellly has played in the Tampa 2 defense his whole career. I'm not sure he's a good fit here. And there is no need for Brunell since Collins resigned. Collins earned the right to be JC's back-up. We really need to draft a young guy to bring along in the system as 3rd string and then 2nd when Collins retires.

I feel that we won't be able to run up the middle until we replace both Rabach and Kendall. My logic here is that it's easier to hit on a Guard in the draft than a center.

That said, it's now irrelevant now that Faine has been signed by Tampa.

I'd be cool with Yoder if Zorn was, but last year they used a lot of Lorenzo Alexander in situations were Yoder would have played. Fine for the goal line, but teams know where the ball is going if he's in the game, and he doesn't block well enough to make up for it.

[MTK]

Cooley is just a damn good TE. Regardless of who our WRs are, he's good for at least 65+ catches per season.

And how can you compete with this?

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Cooley is just a damn good TE. Regardless of who our WRs are, he's good for at least 65+ catches per season.

And how can you compete with this?

Somehow Matty, it just doesn't sound right to say Cooley is a good tight end and to post that picture...lol! j/k

I agree with what you're saying, Cooley is going to get his catches even if we had Jerry Rice, Art Monk, and Lynn Swann all on our team and in their prime playing shape.

[theJBexperience]

Ugh, now Tampa Bay is interested in Drayton Florence as well. What's with the Bucs going after the Skins targets?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by theJBexperience

Ugh, now Tampa Bay is interested in Drayton Florence as well. What's with the Bucs going after the Skins targets?

Well they know we don't have the $$ to go after free agents like in the past.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by theJBexperience

Ugh, now Tampa Bay is interested in Drayton Florence as well. What's with the Bucs going after the Skins targets?

Because they have 30 times the cap room?

[theJBexperience]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Because they have 30 times the cap room?

I know, but why not go after Bernard Berrian or Jacques Reeves or Randall Gay?

I am glad though that the Skins aren't going to give Hackett or Florence inflated salaries. I'm really interested to see what we wind up doing in free agency now. What will we get from the leftovers?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by theJBexperience

I know, but why not go after Bernard Berrian or Jacques Reeves or Randall Gay?

I am glad though that the Skins aren't going to give Hackett or Florence inflated salaries. I'm really interested to see what we wind up doing in free agency now. What will we get from the leftovers?

Take a look at the type of money these guys are getting. Vinny Cerrato is right the coin these guys are getting is ridiculous. Thats why we don't go after Berrian, whos considered the best FA WR besides Moss.

[theJBexperience]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Take a look at the type of money these guys are getting. Vinny Cerrato is right the coin these guys are getting is ridiculous. Thats why we don't go after Berrian, whos considered the best FA WR besides Moss.

I meant that in reference to the Bucs, not us. The Bucs are interested in D.J. Hackett and Drayton Florence, two guys that were high on our list, which seems to be pretty short, so I was saying why can't the Bucs, who have tons of cap room, spend frivolously on other FAs besides the select few we've targeted.

I should've quoted Gtripp. It would've made more sense if you didn't read the posts leading up to my comment. I'll edit it.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by theJBexperience

, so I was saying why can't the Bucs who have tons of cap room spend frivolously on other FAs besides the select few we've targeted.

The funny thing about that is that the Buc's have to spend to reach the Salary cap floor so theres a good chance. Lol, never knew there was such a thing as a salary cap thrill. But yeah, your right we do have a very short list of Free Agents so all of a sudden CB or WR become a lot more likely in the 1st round.

[skinsnut]

Is it just me or does it look like our free agent targets like Hackett will likely be gone.
The Skins have ZERO free agent meeting set up....ZERO.

I would like them to at least try to get him...
Maybe they think his price will come down later...but it looks more and more that the Skins will not be pursuing early free agent...just depth much later

[theJBexperience]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Is it just me or does it look like our free agent targets like Hackett will likely be gone.
The Skins have ZERO free agent meeting set up....ZERO.

I would like them to at least try to get him...
Maybe they think his price will come down later...but it looks more and more that the Skins will not be pursuing early free agent...just depth much later

I think the strategy is to swoop in at the last minute if the price is right. They want to see what type of money the guys they're interested in are going to get tossed at them.