Portis to play Saturday - he doesn't seem too happy about it

[Cooley1]

He needs to get some snaps in, no question about it. I will concur with the notion that the offense must work some live snaps as a whole unit prior to the first game, as we are now in a timing offense where it is critical to feel the repetition in a live game situation.

I don’t want them to find this sync between him and the o-line in week 4 I would rather see 5-8 snaps per in the preseason to get this rhythm down. Also, it is imperative to feel a few hits prior to the start as you don’t want throw him in full blast in week 1 with little to NO contact prior, this will get him hurt.

Everyone else on the team is playing, and he shouldn’t be exempt! We all have our own opinions but at the end of the day I agree with and trust Zorn's decision to get him in the game.

[chrisl13]

Portis should be playing in the preseason because I personally haven't seen him as a real threat. He hasn't really been that since he left Denver. Of course, don't leave him in there too long to risk him getting injured but at least he can get a feel for the game of football as if it were a real game.

[skinsfan69]

As much as I love Portis, I wish he'd shut the hell up about pre season. Get your butt out there and take a few carries. He needs the contact. 4-5 carries isn't going to hurt him. He's the only guy that complains about it. He acts as if he's above the rest of the starters.

[MTK]

I'm really not sure I see his comments as complaining though.

He's always said he will play if they want him too. To me he's just saying that personally he's not anticipating getting much out of it. He knows the system, he's an established vet, and he doesn't think he's got anything to gain by playing.

And in reality the risk/reward of him playing is really not very favorable.

[MTK]

I don't understand the take of 'he needs the contact'. Really though? What are some bumps and bruises in August going to do for him come September?

Look, I agree he should play a series or two, if only to prove the point he's not above anyone else. I don't think that's a big deal. I just don't see the logic in saying he needs the contact, or that the 4-5 carries he may get is going to benefit him in the long run.

RBs have limited mileage to start with. Every carry takes away from that, including the preseason. That's why teams are typically very careful with their star backs this time of year.

[redsk1]

I think w/ a new coach and new o coordinator Portis should play a little bit. Most other NFL teams put their starters in for a couple of series. No big deal.

It is a new system. Remember when Al Saunders took over and we didn't do anything in the preseason. That didn't go well that year. I say put them in there (and other starters) for a little bit and let's go. It's football you can't play scared that someone might get hurt. Of course you've got to be smart about it too.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by redsk1

I think w/ a new coach and new o coordinator Portis should play a little bit. Most other NFL teams put their starters in for a couple of series. No big deal.

It is a new system. Remember when Al Saunders took over and we didn't do anything in the preseason. That didn't go well that year. I say put them in there (and other starters) for a little bit and let's go. It's football you can't play scared that someone might get hurt. Of course you've got to be smart about it too.

It's not a new system as far as the running game goes though.

[Stacks42]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's not a new system as far as the running game goes though.

It is a new system as far as the passing game and blocking schemes.

His money is guaranteed, he needs to stop complaining and do his job.
I'm going to my boss right now and tell him that i dont want to get ready for the big meeting, that I need rest. We will see how that one goes over.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Stacks42

It is a new system as far as the passing game and blocking schemes.

His money is guaranteed, he needs to stop complaining and do his job.
I'm going to my boss right now and tell him that i dont want to get ready for the big meeting, that I need rest. We will see how that one goes over.

Cute but it's apples and oranges.

Resting players in the preseason is not uncommon. Skipping out on meetings in the real world is not reality.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's not a new system as far as the running game goes though.

Your right but the passing game is, and the RB's are going to be a big part of it.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Your right but the passing game is, and the RB's are going to be a big part of it.

That's what camp is for. Not sure what a series or two against a vanilla defense is going to do in the long run in that regard.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's what camp is for. Not sure what a series or two against a vanilla defense is going to do in the long run in that regard.

give EVERYONE mental reps in a live game situation. It's not that carrying the ball or catching a screen a few times is in itself going to prepare him. It's the cummulative effect of the whole unit being out there & listening to the play calls & executing. It's a dress rehearsal.

Especially the passing game, there are nuances to it than even affect CP in protection as the pickups have to be quicker. If it wasn't beneficial for the starters to play, they'd sit the whole unit.

[EternalEnigma21]

I think he should play. He wants to take a leadership role on the team, and the team is playing. I love cp but he's not as valuble as jason campbell, or at this point any starter in our secondary other than maybe doughty. Zorn can't let one guy be publicly bigger than the team. Sends the wrong message.

Ill also say that we don't need this many preseason games. 2 would be sufficient. Hell none would work, as long as everyone gets the same prep time.

[mmil12]

I think it is a little early in the preseason for him to play. However, I do think he needs to start getting reps in the second to last and the last game of the preseason. Not in game 2 of 5 in the preseason. He is too valuable, but in the same right needs to get the rust off. So he needs to drop the attitude, do what the coaches ask, and play football like the rest of the starters.

Look at Santana Moss, every year he pulls a hammy, and he is a BIG part of our offense do we sit him?

How bad would it hurt if we lost Cooley? Do we sit him?

Our aging o-linemen who seem to get hurt each year, are very important. Do we sit them?

Come on CP...be a team player!

[dmek25]

they said specifically that the running games was still coach Gibbs. if that's true, it really serves NO purpose to play portis. i say let him sit. and some people around here make me laugh. if Portis doesnt chase down that interception, and pretty much walks off, i can hear that now. about how he gave up, and isn't a team player. he is too important to the skins. yo Clinton, can you carry a clip board?