Would you accept Michael Vick on the Redskins?

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

If you are trying to pull off the maniacal tone then you certainly captured it.

What you didn't capture is any semblance of rational. I like dogs as much as the next guy, maybe not as much as you and your dog with teriyaki sauce, but the next time an unsupervised canine mauls a child to death be sure to stick up for the dog. A dog in that situation would be put down even though they are just instinctually an animal. I don't agree with putting them down but our legal code says so.

I know that lots of us have strong bonds between our domesticated animals. People consider animals to be human and are very close to their pet. Some are even closer, like you with your dog and the teriyaki sauce, but there is a delineation there. Vick didn't cross it, you might be with teriyaki sauce...but what you do behind closed doors is your business. Vick didn't kill a multitude of human beings or the State and Federal penal systems would never allow him to integrate with soceity. He's getting out soon which means they don't consider animals in the same class as humans. Being that we consume various types of animal meat that's probably not a stretch.

Look, I think what he did is reprehensible. I don't like having to stick up for Vick but I think you are in the wrong here. He is young and a human of free will, who in time has the same chance for redemption on his mistakes as you would have if you did something foolish at that age.

OK, that is just plain idiotic.

Trample may write a little crazy but he's basically right on on this. If you read the details of what went down within Vick's operation, it wasn't just fighting (which is of course a serious federal crime) it was systematic torture. Dogs had their teeth pulled out with pliers, one by one. They were beaten, shot, shocked, drowned, and garroted for losing.

I make no claims to know the composition of Michael's soul, and I do believe in redemption. But I will be very disappointed if in this world, in this life, he has not forfeited at the very least his right to wear the Burgundy and Gold.

[redskinjim]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Convicted felon who ran illegal gambling/dog-fighting ring signs with... the Dallas Cowboys.

(we should just pass on this one).

oakland raiders will take vick he is a cancer and total loser piece of #$%&

[44ever]

Dexter Manley gets banned and Vick signs with the Redskins.
Think about that!

[The Goat]

Ok the Trample name was a little weird but after reading that post I'm actually freaked out.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Ok the Trample name was a little weird but after reading that post I'm actually freaked out.

Trample the Elderly but don't hurt your dog? Vick provoked some strong feelings among people for what he did. That is VERY understandable. I personally can't stand to see a dog even hit.... unless he's attacking you. Vick and his brother are from this area and have screwed up every opportunity they've had. Plain and simple...WE DON'T NEED HIM! I understand your point Tee, but I think the difference is that we don't eat dogs in this country and we don't dress deer up and include them in our wills. Believe it or not ,some people do that with their dogs. I do understand your point but fighting dogs is unfathomable to me and besides that, I can't think of one good reason to bring Vick to our team.

[MTK]

Somebody will give him a chance, I doubt it will be here though.

[Skins4L]

the Lions could sign em... theyre so below-tier it would be understandable and they wouldnt need an excuse.

Hes not comming here...
but Besides the fact he did what he did and went to jail for it...
the questions are can he still play and how effective hell be.

I think hed still be able to play at a high level and could be effective.
Whether or not they allow him at all is the first issue. The next is finding a team with low enough prestige and desperate enough at that point to sign him.

I think theres a better chance well see Micheal Vick playing in the NFL again.. then not. Just simply because of how high his skill level was.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Skins4L

the Lions could sign em... theyre so below-tier it would be understandable and they wouldnt need an excuse.

Hes not comming here...
but Besides the fact he did what he did and went to jail for it...
the questions are can he still play and how effective hell be.

I think hed still be able to play at a high level and could be effective.
Whether or not they allow him at all is the first issue. The next is finding a team with low enough prestige and desperate enough at that point to sign him.

I think theres a better chance well see Micheal Vick playing in the NFL again.. then not. Just simply because of how high his skill level was.

Well he wasn't the most skilled passer to begin with. As a matter of fact he was a below average NFL passer. His game was playmaking. Sitting and not being able to improve his game for two years is real real tough. He probably hasn't thrown a football in a real long time. He'd really need to get in the right situation that would let him sort of re develop his skills. He actually might want to think about playing in Canada for a year.

[Trample the Elderly]

Sorry just a little more before I go to sleep.
You shouldn't compare Americans to the Chinese. We don't eat dogs but we also don't drown our daughters. It's their thing, so be it. I'm not here to pass judegment on other cultures just Michael Vick and his brother.
I'm sorry I can't seperate the two. I like Tech and they bent over backwards for those two, especially Marcus, and got nothing but a kick in the groin in return.

Slaughter-houses and hunters try to kill at the first pop so not to cause suffering, so do the Marines. If you don't eat meat then so be it. That's not the point.
Could you imagine some hunter trying to hold a deer's head in a bucket of water with the antlers? HA HA HA HA or a cow HA HA HA!

Ivan the terrible started with dogs. By the time he was Czar he was putting serfs on pikes. No, Vick isn't Joe Stalin or Hitler but he is a sadist, and a dumb one at that.

Nothing is wrong with Deion besides his big mouth. I don't like big mouth Cowboys coming over to Washington. If y'all have read any of my posts you'd see that I want the Skins to build the team through the draft. I've got my fingers crossed for Duke or Everrett.

T.O is just arrogant and hasn't a grip on his emotions. Pac Man got a bad wrap on the gun charge. Everyone in Richmond has a house full of guns. Beating up your body guard in a drunken brawl when you're on probation is just stupid. I'd take them over Vick hands down.

Yes I know this isn't a perfect world. I forget the name of the Redskin SB running back who went to the pen for coke. I hear ole Joe Theisman was a drunk for a long time. Perhaps someone called Vick's mama a ho and that's why he flicked em off. I'm a reasonable man.

No, these guys aren't perfect. No one is. But let me make this point. We've got guys coming home from war (regardless how you feel about the war) in body bags, missing limbs, missing eyes and faces, with memories that never go away. Do they make a million dollars a year, no! Half the time they don't even get a thank you. Do school teachers make a million dollars? No.
If you paid me a million dollars I'd go out there and hit people like they owed me money, smile, and shut my mouth. Night clubs, dog fighting, dope, man hell no!

So forgive me if I get a little upset about people suggesting that we sign Vick. I'm not painting with a broad brush, just the VICK family. I feel sorry for his Daddy. He told Michael to cut that s**t out before he went to Tech. Did dingus listen?
Here's another question. Do you think Joe Gibbs would play Vick? I somehow doubt it.
When I heard that Romo helped some old ladies and took some homeless people to the movies I was happy for him and the Cowboys orginization. When I see ARE and some of the other guys go out into Washington and try to help people, that's when I'm the most proud to be a Redskin. They might not be the best football players but I'm proud of them when I hear that.

And now I will shut my mouth.

[Dirtbag59]

Q: Would you accept Michael Vick on the Redskins?

A: NO, and granted I live in Atlanta then I feel I have final say in the matter.

[jrocx69]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Vick is starting to put things in place for a return to the NFL once he's released from prison.
Michael Vick revises bankruptcy plan, in hopes of expediting NFL return. - NFL - SI.com

In the interest of a non Campbell/Cerrato/draft/FA thread and since it will be discussed eventually:

I'm for Vick to the Redskins, not as a starting QB but as an 'athlete' that we can use as a RB, WR, wildcat QB, etc. Giving him 15 touches a game with his skills (assuming they've only minimally diminished) would give us a dynamic we need on offense.

As for the off the field stuff, he would paid his debt to society, served his time and done his pennance for his wrongdoing.

There's going to be interest in him so my question is, would you support the Redskins signing him? (mods please poll as Yes/No)

wow................

[saden1]

What is wrong with you people? We're talking about Vick now? Come on folks, have mercy.

[Meks]

no!!

[Luxorreb]

How many people that wouldn't accept Vick on the Redskins eat cows, pigs, chickens and such? You have any idea how cruel and inhumane commercial meat plants are? I do not agree with or condone what Vick did or was involved in. As far as wanting or needing him on the Redskins, there is really no gain for any possible negativity that'd insue. Other teams, perhaps more desperate ones might take a chance on Vick.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Luxorreb

How many people that wouldn't accept Vick on the Redskins eat cows, pigs, chickens and such? You have any idea how cruel and inhumane commercial meat plants are? I do not agree with or condone what Vick did or was involved in. As far as wanting or needing him on the Redskins, there is really no gain for any possible negativity that'd insue. Other teams, perhaps more desperate ones might take a chance on Vick.

Slaughterhouses are indeed cruel, but killing animals for food and having them maim each other for sport is not even remotely the same thing