Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Exactly what I'm thinking. We'll AGAIN have the wrong players for the wrong scheme and AGAIN if Shanahan doesn't produce a champion in 2 years, we'll be doing the saaaame thing again.

[Schneed10]

I think Shanahan in an uncapped world would be tough to beat.

But that's only if you actually give Shanahan time to shape things the way he wants them, and it's only if you stay out of his way, and only if you commit to him. It's hard to see that happening.

And like Matty said, it sucks starting over every other year.

[SmootSmack]

I think Shanahan will be in Dallas, but if he replaced Zorn I'd be curious to know if he's replacing Cerrato too, and if that's a good thing?

Also, how would Portis feel?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think Shanahan will be in Dallas, but if he replaced Zorn I'd be curious to know if he's replacing Cerrato too, and if that's a good thing?

Also, how would Portis feel?

Really? I'd be shocked if Jerry didnt land Cowher. Or are you thinking John Fox is a dead man walking and Cowhers coaching the Panthers in 2010 no matter what.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think Shanahan will be in Dallas, but if he replaced Zorn I'd be curious to know if he's replacing Cerrato too, and if that's a good thing?

Also, how would Portis feel?

Maybe happy, who knows.. Danny still signs the checks

edit: Just realized what you meant; I don't really recall Portis' beef with Shanahan

[SBXVII]

I totally agree. Its impoossible to be successful when you keep changing coaches every couple of years.

I think it boils down to how well Zorn does. If he improves this yr he will probably stay. If he starts well again and falters or has another 8-8 season or worse he's gone. I for one would like to see a HC get more then 2-3 yrs to do something but I get the feeling DS wants to see improvement like any business man wants to see. If the business is stagnant or is starting to fail changes are made. If Zorn started out bad and ended on a good note I could see him staying around for another yr.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Of course, i will root for the skins no matter whos coach... well, that is unless Danny decides to make himself Owner/GM/HC. I don't think I could handle that. Anyway, Shanahans been discussed, as have Cowher, Gruden, and Holmgren. Unless Zorn wins multiple playoff games, I honestly doubt Snyder will be able to resist the urge to pursue atleast one of those guys. So, with that in mind, i guess i might as well get used to the idea. With that in mind, here are my choices for HC in 2010, ranked in order from most desireable to least desireable.

1. Jim Zorn

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Of course, i will root for the skins no matter whos coach... well, that is unless Danny decides to make himself Owner/GM/HC. I don't think I could handle that. Anyway, Shanahans been discussed, as have Cowher, Gruden, and Holmgren. Unless Zorn wins multiple playoff games, I honestly doubt Snyder will be able to resist the urge to pursue atleast one of those guys. So, with that in mind, i guess i might as well get used to the idea. With that in mind, here are my choices for HC in 2010, ranked in order from most desireable to least desireable.

1. Jim Zorn

Where's the rest of your list? Considering you thought Zorn was a poor hire and couldn't wait for next off-season there must be a longer list, no?

http://www.thewarpath.net/518653-post33.html

Zorn inherited a team with a very strong running game from Joe Gibbs. We started 6-2 because we adhered to that running game. As the season went on, teams began to adjust to Zorn. How did Zorn adjust back? According to Clinton Portis, he tried to start changing things with the running game - the one thing that was working right! - and we went 2-6 in the 2nd half of the season.

We will not get better unless Zorn changes dramatically for the better in his 2nd year. Thus far, the only changes he has instituted have hurt the team, not helped it. If Zorn keeps his staff and continues to do what Zorn wants to do (and not what has been proven to work), I fully expect us to be a 6-10 team at best next year.

Zorn was a very poor hire by Vinny. He was - by far - the dumbest of all the new rookie coaching hires made in the last offseason. it looked that way at the time and it has been confirmed by what we've seen miami, Baltimore, and Atlanta do this year. Vinny sealed his fate with the Zorn hire and the 2009-2010 offseason can't come soon enough.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Where's the rest of your list? Considering you thought Zorn was a poor hire and couldn't wait for next off-season there must be a longer list, no?

http://www.thewarpath.net/518653-post33.html

So I guess the lesson is not to flip flop on SmootSmack's watch.. You sure you're not wasting your talents at The Worldwide Leader rather than being a fact checker for politicians?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

So I guess the lesson is not to flip flop on SmootSmack's watch.. You sure you're not wasting your talents at The Worldwide Leader rather than being a fact checker for politicians?

We all change our mind on occasion about things, just been wondering how someone would change their mind over the course of three months where nothing has really happened.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We all change our mind on occasion about things, just been wondering how someone would change their mind over the course of three months where nothing has really happened.

I have no problem changing my opinion when i've been proved wrong. I know most of you won't beleive it, but I'd like nothing more (when it comes to the Redskins) than for Campbell to prove me wrong.

[nimbh2]

i do not believe it was zorns fault we went down hill after mid way half of our line got hurt so he had to change up some how cambpell was running for his life and you cant win with out a healthy line no matter how good of a coach you are.

[MonkFan4Life]

My thoughts are what they are after every new coach comes in. Super Bowl in 3 seasons or less baby !

[SBXVII]

There were many issues last yr. Piss pour coaching pool to pick from. No one would have known how well the other Rookie coach's would have done. DS was only looking for a HC cause he hand picked the OC, then had to offer it to the OC since no one wanted to come to the Skins in an already made staff. Most coach's would want to pick their own staff. DS was basically having difficulty locating any interested coach's for the position. I know it sounds good to say DS decided to go in other directions but truly how much of it was the coach's saying no I'm not interested. Except for Fassel. I think DS was truly looking at Fassel and I honestly believe, and I'm probably being nieve, that between fan and media pressure DS changed his mind. It's all about ticket sales and if a new coach does not inspire you then no one will show up.

Since we have finally changed to a WCO I think we should stick with it. If it means staying with Zorn so be it. If one of the other coach's run a WCO and Zorn is not getting it done then bring in the new coach. Totally switching back and forth system to system is going to hurt us more then help us.

Having said all that I'll flip flop now. Bringing in Shotty as GM and having Cowher as coach would be interesting.

[SBXVII]

Perhaps the meat grinder has created wisdom? Perhaps the meat grinder has shown what works and what doesn't. Instead of creating our own meat grinder and sending Zorn through it we could trade out for a coach that knows what it takes to get to the SB and hopefully not go through the meat grinder again.