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Old 05-22-2009, 08:40 PM   #31
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Re: I think this might be our answer for OLB...

No way in hell should we TRADE for a 34 year old LB who was a 3-4 outside backer. Didnt we try this last year with a much better player in JT? Id rather go with Wilson, Blades or MW than trade for Ellis. If he is released and/or Rocky gets injured then maybe bring him in...otherwise I will pass on him. D Brooks at WLB and Rocky at SLB would be better IMO.
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Old 05-22-2009, 10:14 PM   #32
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Re: I think this might be our answer for OLB...

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Harkening back to last season, if the Skins lose two OLB's to major injuries on the first day of training camp, Greg Ellis will be acquired immediately.

Other than that, I'd be surprised...
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Old 05-22-2009, 11:13 PM   #33
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Would cost picks or $ that we don't have to spare-check

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Old 05-23-2009, 12:23 AM   #34
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Re: I think this might be our answer for OLB...

When was the last non-draft day, divisional trade?

I really can't think of one. I doubt that it's done because each team would think that the other was getting over on them no matter what was exchanged.

Really though does someone have the history on that?
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Old 05-23-2009, 12:35 AM   #35
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When was the last non-draft day, divisional trade?

I really can't think of one. I doubt that it's done because each team would think that the other was getting over on them no matter what was exchanged.

Really though does someone have the history on that?
The only one that comes to mind was in 2007 when the Dolphins traded Wes Welker to the Patriots for 2007 2nd and 7th round picks.

EDIT- Just remembered that Drew Bledsoe was traded from the Patriots to the Bills in 2002 for a 2003 1st round pick.

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Old 05-23-2009, 07:47 AM   #36
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Name the last cowgirl we had come to DC that was sucessful?
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:43 AM   #37
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Name the last cowgirl we had come to DC that was sucessful?
Alvin Harper?
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:56 AM   #38
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what part of the word successful didnt you understand?
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Old 05-23-2009, 01:40 PM   #39
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Name the last cowgirl we had come to DC that was sucessful?
So you are saying the Skins should never trade or sign a player who is a ex-cowboy because previous moves havent worked out?

Sometimes I think peoples hate for the Cowboys blinds there judgement. I actually think if DeMarcus Ware somehow hit the FA market some Skins fans would be saying I dont want that Cowgirl trash.
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Old 05-23-2009, 02:10 PM   #40
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Re: I think this might be our answer for OLB...

I got answer to the OLB problem...


4. The Washington Redskins have a completely different plan for first-round choice Brian Orakpo than some people expected. At the Redskins' minicamp, Orakpo was used as the starting strongside linebacker. The plan is for him to blitz from the strong side on first and second downs. On passing downs, he will line up at right defensive end next to Albert Haynesworth, the former Tennessee Titans star who appeared dominating at his first Redskins camp. Orakpo was drafted to rush the passer. The surprise is that he won't just be doing it from a defensive end position.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=4135310

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Old 05-23-2009, 03:02 PM   #41
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I got answer to the OLB problem...
4. The Washington Redskins have a completely different plan for first-round choice Brian Orakpo than some people expected. At the Redskins' minicamp, Orakpo was used as the starting strongside linebacker. The plan is for him to blitz from the strong side on first and second downs. On passing downs, he will line up at right defensive end next to Albert Haynesworth, the former Tennessee Titans star who appeared dominating at his first Redskins camp. Orakpo was drafted to rush the passer. The surprise is that he won't just be doing it from a defensive end position.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=4135310

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Ever since the Skins have put Orakpo at LB in Minicamp I have had mixed feelings on it. While I feel he can be successful id rather him play as a 3 down end. Im not sure if he will be blitzing on all 1st and 2nd downs though like the article suggests at LB. It seems like the Skins are just filling a need be throwing Orakpo at LB instead of looking at the long term success of their 1st round pick by playing him at the position he played in at college as a DE.

Honestly id rather him just play RDE all 3 downs and let him grow into the position at the NFL level and reak havoc along the defensive line with Albert Haynesworth.
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:18 PM   #42
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So you are saying the Skins should never trade or sign a player who is a ex-cowboy because previous moves havent worked out?

Sometimes I think peoples hate for the Cowboys blinds there judgement. I actually think if DeMarcus Ware somehow hit the FA market some Skins fans would be saying I dont want that Cowgirl trash.
Yes I am saying that. Bro "if" that ever happened then I would admit I was wrong, but it hasn't. It's like people continue to play with fire and have 3rd degree burns. (not that extreme but you know what I'm getting at) You're probably the same person that wanted Deion, Alvin Harper, and Brandon Noble. And Look what that did for us....
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:44 PM   #43
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So we shouldn't have signed Demetric Evans back in 2004?
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:58 PM   #44
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Yes I am saying that. Bro "if" that ever happened then I would admit I was wrong, but it hasn't. It's like people continue to play with fire and have 3rd degree burns. (not that extreme but you know what I'm getting at) You're probably the same person that wanted Deion, Alvin Harper, and Brandon Noble. And Look what that did for us....
Play with fire? Teams try the best they can to get the talent needed to win. I dont care what team he last played for. He could of played for the Satan All-Stars and id still sign him if he gave my team a better chance to win.

I didnt have a problem with Deion Sanders at the time. Hes probably one of the top 3 corners to ever play the game. So yeah back in 2000 I didnt mind having a trio of Champ Bailey, Deion Sanders, and Darrell Green. The only Skins fans who didnt want Deion were the ones holding a grudge for all the times he whipped our ass over the years.

As for Alvin Harper I didnt have any opinion one way or the other. I didnt think he was anything special. He did play 2 seasons for Tampa Bay before us so it wasnt like he came right from the Cowboys here.

Brandon Noble had knee problems but when he played for us he played well. He even won the Ed Block Courage Award after coming back from his first knee injury with us. I wanted Noble and had no problems with that move. You cant predict knee injuries they could happen to anyone. He probably would of came back and played some more for us if he didnt get a staph infection that ended his career after his 2nd knee injury.
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Old 05-23-2009, 07:02 PM   #45
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So we shouldn't have signed Demetric Evans back in 2004?
Damn dude great post. I forgot Evans had last played for the Cowboys before signing with the Redskins.

I was trying to think of different players and that one skipped my mind.
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