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Old 07-10-2009, 10:38 AM   #1
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QB's are praised when the team wins, and QB's are the scapegoat when they lose, we all know that.

I dont think the defense had anything to do with Romo dropping the extra point hold.....oh wait, Ware distracted him by yelling from the sideline...must be the defenses fault.

Tony Romo was 16 the last time the Cowboys won a playoff game. Romo is overrated, and for a QB that hasnt won anything, talking heads still line up to kiss his butt.
Well there ya' go.

Here I was attempting to bring something constructive to the table, and it turns into a bashing sessioin. Ok, fine.

But you wont find 2 threads dedicated to a Jason Campbell on a Cowboys forum. Can't say that about this one though. Just funny how there is almost the same amout of threads about Romo and the Cowboys here as there are about Jason Campbell.

I'm not saying...I'm just saying.
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Old 07-10-2009, 10:50 AM   #2
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Well there ya' go.

Here I was attempting to bring something constructive to the table, and it turns into a bashing sessioin. Ok, fine.

But you wont find 2 threads dedicated to a Jason Campbell on a Cowboys forum. Can't say that about this one though. Just funny how there is almost the same amout of threads about Romo and the Cowboys here as there are about Jason Campbell.

I'm not saying...I'm just saying.
I've gotta call you on that one. I like going to one Cowboys site, and I have replied (not created) to many a thread on Campbell. In fact Campbell bashing is a whole lot more creative over there than anything thrown at Romo here.
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:26 PM   #3
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Well there ya' go.

Here I was attempting to bring something constructive to the table, and it turns into a bashing sessioin. Ok, fine.

But you wont find 2 threads dedicated to a Jason Campbell on a Cowboys forum. Can't say that about this one though. Just funny how there is almost the same amout of threads about Romo and the Cowboys here as there are about Jason Campbell.

I'm not saying...I'm just saying.
Sandtrap, good post about QBs and success. It's sort of like Presidents and the economy, no matter how it comes down, the Prez gets all the credit or all the blame.

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I dont think the defense had anything to do with Romo dropping the extra point hold.....oh wait, Ware distracted him by yelling from the sideline...must be the defenses fault.

Tony Romo was 16 the last time the Cowboys won a playoff game. Romo is overrated, and for a QB that hasnt won anything, talking heads still line up to kiss his butt.
If it makes you feel better, the same or worst things have been said about JC by some fans here. So I think something like this was expected.

Going back to the discussion, I think JC is on the hot seat, but I would put Romo in a much urgent situation. There are always high expectations of the Cowboys by the sports talking heads, and I'm sure many people see Romo as being indirectly responsible for getting TO out of Dallas, so that will also bring pressure on him to succeed with TO.
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re: Romo gets dissed again.

Ya know, I REALLY hate to take the discussion here but many of the JC detractors in fact want him to turn into Tony Romo.

The characteristics that Romo has (that HIS detractors light him up about) are that 'it' factor, the gunslinging mentality, taking chances, pushing the ball down the field where it may not be wide open but taking a chance anyway, putting up impressive but hollow TD, yardage and PPG numbers. Those are the main criticisms I've seen around here all offseason about Campbell.

If I had a dollar for every time I read a variation of 'I'll take more interceptions if it means that Campbell is taking chances' or 'he needs to throw the ball down the field because good things might happen' then I'd be rich. The irony is some of us rip in others what we want in ours. [/rant]

Romo is an OK QB, he's nothing particularly special from what I've seen. Without T.O. I think he's really going to struggle this season because teams are going to take Witten away and single cover their other WR. Jacobs needs to worry about his own passing attack though because Kevin Boss, Sinorice Moss and Dominik Hixon ain't scaring anyone.
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Old 07-10-2009, 10:18 AM   #5
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Ya know, I REALLY hate to take the discussion here but many of the JC detractors in fact want him to turn into Tony Romo.

The characteristics that Romo has (that HIS detractors light him up about) are that 'it' factor, the gunslinging mentality, taking chances, pushing the ball down the field where it may not be wide open but taking a chance anyway, putting up impressive but hollow TD, yardage and PPG numbers. Those are the main criticisms I've seen around here all offseason about Campbell.

If I had a dollar for every time I read a variation of 'I'll take more interceptions if it means that Campbell is taking chances' or 'he needs to throw the ball down the field because good things might happen' then I'd be rich. The irony is some of us rip in others what we want in ours. [/rant]

Romo is an OK QB, he's nothing particularly special from what I've seen. Without T.O. I think he's really going to struggle this season because teams are going to take Witten away and single cover their other WR. Jacobs needs to worry about his own passing attack though because Kevin Boss, Sinorice Moss and Dominik Hixon ain't scaring anyone.
Agreed.
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Old 07-10-2009, 10:31 AM   #6
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Ya know, I REALLY hate to take the discussion here but many of the JC detractors in fact want him to turn into Tony Romo.

The characteristics that Romo has (that HIS detractors light him up about) are that 'it' factor, the gunslinging mentality, taking chances, pushing the ball down the field where it may not be wide open but taking a chance anyway, putting up impressive but hollow TD, yardage and PPG numbers. Those are the main criticisms I've seen around here all offseason about Campbell.

If I had a dollar for every time I read a variation of 'I'll take more interceptions if it means that Campbell is taking chances' or 'he needs to throw the ball down the field because good things might happen' then I'd be rich. The irony is some of us rip in others what we want in ours. [/rant]

Romo is an OK QB, he's nothing particularly special from what I've seen. Without T.O. I think he's really going to struggle this season because teams are going to take Witten away and single cover their other WR. Jacobs needs to worry about his own passing attack though because Kevin Boss, Sinorice Moss and Dominik Hixon ain't scaring anyone.
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Old 07-10-2009, 10:42 AM   #7
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Ya know, I REALLY hate to take the discussion here but many of the JC detractors in fact want him to turn into Tony Romo.

The characteristics that Romo has (that HIS detractors light him up about) are that 'it' factor, the gunslinging mentality, taking chances, pushing the ball down the field where it may not be wide open but taking a chance anyway, putting up impressive but hollow TD, yardage and PPG numbers. Those are the main criticisms I've seen around here all offseason about Campbell.

If I had a dollar for every time I read a variation of 'I'll take more interceptions if it means that Campbell is taking chances' or 'he needs to throw the ball down the field because good things might happen' then I'd be rich. The irony is some of us rip in others what we want in ours. [/rant]

Romo is an OK QB, he's nothing particularly special from what I've seen. Without T.O. I think he's really going to struggle this season because teams are going to take Witten away and single cover their other WR. Jacobs needs to worry about his own passing attack though because Kevin Boss, Sinorice Moss and Dominik Hixon ain't scaring anyone.
Great post! But I dont understand the thinking of those that want a more aggressive quarterback. I would love to see more scoring, but taking care of the ball should always be a premium in the NFL. Brett Favre is a perfect example of this, lots of TD's....but lots of INT's to go along with it. A great quarterback that won just 1 Super bowl, and that is the gamble you take with gunslinger QB's. Id rather play good defense, run the ball 50% of the plays, and trust a steady quarterback...just my two cents.
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Old 07-10-2009, 10:41 AM   #8
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Jacob's is pretty much a caveman and fortunately for the Giants, he gets paid to run and not think. Romo has appeared to be pretty good at improvising in the past. That's the frustrating thing about him as a Skins fan. Right when you think a play is dead or they've f**ked up big time, he somehow makes a big play. This, I think, has added a great deal to him being thought of as an elite QB. This is what I believe caveman Jacobs is alluding to. If you take the improvising away and just keep him in the pocket, how good is he? Making something out of nothing is certainly what you would like your QB to do, but when those completions start turning into picks, you start looking pretty bad. I think without TO this year we'll see a better picture of who Romo really is.
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:28 AM   #9
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i like the idea that the cowboys have invested their success in romo . . . i think he is a servicable but not great quarterback, a .500 win guy who can get you to the playoffs but not win the big one

^^^ this is what i posted back in '07 when the boys extended romo's contract. imo from when i first saw romo i saw a guy who made bad decisions but for some reason got lucky or bailed out by his wide recievers on jump balls. i didnt think his luck would last. i agree with jacobs assesment, romo scrambling on a broken play is his strength but that "strength" in my mind is overrated b/c he would get lucky or bailed out. just a strange stretch of good fortune by romo that overshadowed the times his gambling hurt the team.

now he is starting to come back down to earth and those miracle plays arent turning into miracles anymore. thats why i was happy the boys invested their future in a guy who looked good on stats and some miracle plays but really didnt have all the talent or tools to excel for a long stretch of time.

should be interesting to see how this season goes without TO and wonder boy not looking so wonderful.

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Old 07-10-2009, 12:12 PM   #10
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Romo is an easy target and being a Skins fan you gotta take aim. But when its comes down to the bottom line he is a capable playmaker. If I were Jacobs, I would be criticizing the vastly overrated supposid Cowboy Defense. They are the real joke on that team. Ware is a monster, other than that they got nothing. Also Jacobs should take aim at doughboy W Phillips, this guy is nothing but a loser...check his playoff record. Im so happy that super idiot Jerry Jones retained him for this year. Romo and the offense will have another solid year.
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Romo is an easy target and being a Skins fan you gotta take aim. But when its comes down to the bottom line he is a capable playmaker. If I were Jacobs, I would be criticizing the vastly overrated supposid Cowboy Defense. They are the real joke on that team. Ware is a monster, other than that they got nothing. Also Jacobs should take aim at doughboy W Phillips, this guy is nothing but a loser...check his playoff record. Im so happy that super idiot Jerry Jones retained him for this year. Romo and the offense will have another solid year.
1) I hope Romo and the offense don't because

2) Wade may be a lousy head coach, but he is one heck of a D-Coordinator. Other than Philly, once he took over the D they really stepped up a notch. And they were ranked 8th (like we were 4th its only a ranking) last year. I will not be surprised if all 4 NFCE teams have top 6 D's this year.

However, they have no effective head coach, and what I think the second Philly game showed is that if Wade has the D and the game starts going south, no one on the team is going to take over and get everything in balance.

I think/hope it could be a LOONG season for them thar cowpokes.
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Jacobs is an idiot. NFL Network broke it down and in the pocket Romo has a rating of something like 95. Out of the pocket it was like 50.
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Jacobs is an idiot. NFL Network broke it down and in the pocket Romo has a rating of something like 95. Out of the pocket it was like 50.
Even if Jacobs were correct, it is foolish to provide a division rival with such bulletin board material. It conceivably could jack up Romo, the defenders who tackle Jacobs, or anyone else on the Cowpies team who feels loyal to Romo. If that is what Jacobs thinks, that is fine, but to spew it to the press, now that's just dumb.
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Jacobs is an idiot. NFL Network broke it down and in the pocket Romo has a rating of something like 95. Out of the pocket it was like 50.
Cool, hey anyone know his rating in his career for Dec ...or the playoffs,what's his record in Dec?
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"Cool, hey anyone know his rating in his career for Dec ...or the playoffs,what's his record in Dec?" GIANTONE[/quote]

Yea he isn't very good in December 5-8 but again it's a TEAM sport.. In the 2 playoff losses he played pretty good, the bad snap happens and he did ok vs you guys.
The Defense lost the game vs NY.

Oh and Romo is 4-0 as a starter vs NY in the regular season with a CRAZY QB rating over 100.
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