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Old 09-29-2009, 11:21 AM   #1
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With all apologies to Matty, LaVar is the true Ego. Having spent a lot of time with him (granted it was over five years ago), I know he is an extremely stubborn, "I am never wrong" person. Nice guy, courteous. But he pretty much has remained bitter because people in the organization told him what he apparently had never been told before "You know what LaVar...sometimes your shit does stink"

He needs to get over it already

That said, the ownership situation had serious issues when LaVar was here. The ownership situation is soooo much better than it was when LaVar was here. Sooo much better. RIP Gerald Snyder but he was way too influential in roster decisions back in the day. And then there was Fred Drasner, who was basically everything fans assume Snyder to be. I believe Dan Snyder was too influenced by the impetuous nature of Drasner and the desire to get his dad all the players he wanted. With Fred Smith and especially Dwight Schar Snyder (Dan) has a stronger ownership group supporting him.
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Old 09-29-2009, 01:19 PM   #2
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With all apologies to Matty, LaVar is the true Ego. Having spent a lot of time with him (granted it was over five years ago), I know he is an extremely stubborn, "I am never wrong" person. Nice guy, courteous. But he pretty much has remained bitter because people in the organization told him what he apparently had never been told before "You know what LaVar...sometimes your shit does stink"

He needs to get over it already

That said, the ownership situation had serious issues when LaVar was here. The ownership situation is soooo much better than it was when LaVar was here. Sooo much better. RIP Gerald Snyder but he was way too influential in roster decisions back in the day. And then there was Fred Drasner, who was basically everything fans assume Snyder to be. I believe Dan Snyder was too influenced by the impetuous nature of Drasner and the desire to get his dad all the players he wanted. With Fred Smith and especially Dwight Schar Snyder (Dan) has a stronger ownership group supporting him.
Did they really say that to Lavar? What was his reply? NO?

Seriously, it's good to hear that things have changed for the better, and it seems so from my perspective as a fan. However, ironic as it sounds, Snyder, who's made a bundle in marketing/pr, does a terrible job of pr w/the paying fans & marketing himself.
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Old 09-29-2009, 02:28 PM   #3
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With all apologies to Matty, LaVar is the true Ego. Having spent a lot of time with him (granted it was over five years ago), I know he is an extremely stubborn, "I am never wrong" person. Nice guy, courteous. But he pretty much has remained bitter because people in the organization told him what he apparently had never been told before "You know what LaVar...sometimes your shit does stink"

He needs to get over it already

That said, the ownership situation had serious issues when LaVar was here. The ownership situation is soooo much better than it was when LaVar was here. Sooo much better. RIP Gerald Snyder but he was way too influential in roster decisions back in the day. And then there was Fred Drasner, who was basically everything fans assume Snyder to be. I believe Dan Snyder was too influenced by the impetuous nature of Drasner and the desire to get his dad all the players he wanted. With Fred Smith and especially Dwight Schar Snyder (Dan) has a stronger ownership group supporting him.
Don't the acquisitions of Jason Taylor, Albert Haynesworth and what appears to be the gross overpayment of DeAngelo Hall tend to indicate that nothing has really changed with regard to ownership and its "impetuous nature" ??
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Old 09-29-2009, 03:13 PM   #4
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Don't the acquisitions of Jason Taylor, Albert Haynesworth and what appears to be the gross overpayment of DeAngelo Hall tend to indicate that nothing has really changed with regard to ownership and its "impetuous nature" ??
I might agree with Taylor. But I wouldn't say so with Hall and especially not Haynesworth.

But anyway, when I said "impetuous nature of Fred Drasner" I was referring specifically to Norv's in-season firing which I can tell you had Drasner's imprint all over it. I mean it was 100%, in my opinion, the right decision to fire Turner. Just not at that moment.

I think as fans we have to simply accept that Snyder will always have a level of involvement. Not buying his merchandise really isn't going to change that. And he will probably always seek, to an extent, the advice of Vinny Cerrato. Cerrato is like a member of the family.
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I might agree with Taylor. But I wouldn't say so with Hall and especially not Haynesworth.

But anyway, when I said "impetuous nature of Fred Drasner" I was referring specifically to Norv's in-season firing which I can tell you had Drasner's imprint all over it. I mean it was 100%, in my opinion, the right decision to fire Turner. Just not at that moment.

I think as fans we have to simply accept that Snyder will always have a level of involvement. Not buying his merchandise really isn't going to change that. And he will probably always seek, to an extent, the advice of Vinny Cerrato. Cerrato is like a member of the family.
Even after Dan wakes up and finally fires Vinny...?

Really do you think Vinny will really be around much longer? I know they are attached at the hip and all, but all good and not so good things eventually come to an end.

I see a divorce coming with Vinny and the Danny/Redskins, after or maybe before the hiring of the next HC. I don't believe any of the 5 or 6 SB winning coachs available, that Dan will go after will work with Vinny. It is fairly well publicized in most league circles or for that matter just in general, Vinny is a joke.
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Old 09-30-2009, 12:49 PM   #6
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Even after Dan wakes up and finally fires Vinny...?

Really do you think Vinny will really be around much longer? I know they are attached at the hip and all, but all good and not so good things eventually come to an end.

I see a divorce coming with Vinny and the Danny/Redskins, after or maybe before the hiring of the next HC. I don't believe any of the 5 or 6 SB winning coachs available, that Dan will go after will work with Vinny. It is fairly well publicized in most league circles or for that matter just in general, Vinny is a joke.
Well, we'll find out this offseason how attached Vinny and Dan are. I think it's almost unanimously agreed upon that Vinny should be fired at the end of this season. If he isn't, well what will that say of Snyder? Time will tell.

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Snyder has owned the team long enough to learn and know the NFL. The learning and changing phase is over for Dan. He's got the money. If he needs to realize that building a winning team starts from the top down. It starts with him. I do realize in his mind, he thinks he is doing everything possible to build a winning team, but he is ignoring key areas in making that possible. Vinny is not the answer. The hands on approach to an NFL team isn't the answer either.
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PS: While I'm sure he's not 100% incorrect... and I probaboly sided more with LaVar at the begining... he just needs to let it go, he sounds like more and more of a little baby each time he talks about Snyder... Granted I dont know what happened, but move on... and you should not be considering yourself as great as "B-Mitch, Charles Mann, Art Monk, Riggo, Monte Coleman, the Hogs" ... Chris Samuels who was drafted a spot after you is 100x the Redskin you were.
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LaVar has a point but the Skins are an easy target right now. They lack talent at the management, coaching, and player level. Heck I heard the parking attendants at Fedex stink too. As for banding together for a revolution and going over to Redskins park--it's a bit much--just stop buying tickets and merchandise if you don't like the product. Eventually the ownership may realize they need to do something different. Or maybe not. In the meantime save your dollars for a better product.

One fact that I just heard blew me away--since our last Super Bowl team 18 years ago--only the Skins and Lions have failed to reach the NFC Championship game!
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LaVar has a point but the Skins are an easy target right now. They lack talent at the management, coaching, and player level. Heck I heard the parking attendants at Fedex stink too. As for banding together for a revolution and going over to Redskins park--it's a bit much--just stop buying tickets and merchandise if you don't like the product. Eventually the ownership may realize they need to do something different. Or maybe not. In the meantime save your dollars for a better product.

One fact that I just heard blew me away--since our last Super Bowl team 18 years ago--only the Skins and Lions have failed to reach the NFC Championship game!
Yeah...but we blew out the Lions in that game!
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Jack Kent Cooke handed the team over to Richie Pettibon after Gibbs retired the first time and the result was not good. He then tried to strike gold for a second time by hiring a hot young assistant named Norv who we all, I'm sure, would like to forget. Then Danny bought the team, ousted Norv in the middle of a season, Robiskie took over...and well...you all know the rest. The point is that this poor coaching situation has plagued this team since the early nineties when the team had a GREAT owner in Mr. Cooke.
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Yeah...but we blew out the Lions in that game!
What a great game and season that was...seems like we blew out people almost every week. I sound old just saying that...turned 38 yesterday...guess I am!

Not sure about Casserly--still have bad memories of Bobby Wilson, Tom Carter, and Andre Johnson. I'll hang Desmond Howard on Gibbs and Shuler on Norv. For another thread I suppose...
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LaVar has a point but the Skins are an easy target right now. They lack talent at the management, coaching, and player level. Heck I heard the parking attendants at Fedex stink too. As for banding together for a revolution and going over to Redskins park--it's a bit much--just stop buying tickets and merchandise if you don't like the product. Eventually the ownership may realize they need to do something different. Or maybe not. In the meantime save your dollars for a better product.

One fact that I just heard blew me away--since our last Super Bowl team 18 years ago--only the Skins and Lions have failed to reach the NFC Championship game!
I had to check that and you are right, god we are an Epic Fail. =(
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Like I said in the first post, Lavar has an axe to grind- it's obvious that he's still lobbying to the fans that he was right.

But as NYCSkin pointed out, the Skins are an easy target right now. What if Lavar said this stuff this summer? I think most everyone (maybe 75%) here would call him out as just being bitter. Now, after stories of the skins suing fans & losing to the Lions, his bitterness has new life.
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Old 09-29-2009, 01:27 PM   #15
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I think Lavar's opinion is skewed. Just a little cause if I were him I would still be bitter. However even us fans have pointed our fingers at the ownership. The problem is and will always remain is that DS is not going anywhere. I'm not sure what the fans think will happen? DS is going to say "Man, I must be the problem so I'll just go out and sell the team." That aint going to happen. As long as this team is making money then all the powers that be will be content. It's not like the fans are going to rally together and force DS to sell the team unless he's losing money over several yrs not just one. and If I'm correct we would find DS moving the team saying "the market is weak in DC."

Can any of the other owners force DS out? I doubt it. So now you know your stuck with DS. accept it. move on.

The only thing fans can hope for is DS finally steps back and gets good football people to run the show and just enjoy the games on Sun. Unfortunatly that would mean he would have to admit he's not as good as he thinks he is and that might not happen either.
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