Michael peels back the curtain at Redskins Park in interview with Wise

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And then I've got Jason, God love you, Jason, if I can see Antwaan Randle-El standing by himself with no one within 100 yards of him...then the quarterback's got to see it.

"And when things like that are happening, it becomes very frustrating. And that's why Zorn says we're making improvements, what he should have said was folks there were plays where we had guys that were ready to score touchdowns but we didn't get the ball in their hands. That I would have understood."

I have said in the past on several threads that JC has a problem seeing the field. I have not been to a game sense the Giants beat us in 07 when they went on their SB run. I posted in that game JC missed like 8 or 10 wide open guys while dumping off the ball. It was so bad in that game that even my wife commented about guys wide open and not getting the ball. Its hard to see on TV so I stopped saying that as I was not sure if it was still a problem and maybe it is.

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He kind of makes Snyder out to be an idiot, which he is not. I know that's not what GM intented. Come on though, DS has got to know status quo is not working.

He's losing games and the goodwill of Skins fans. Their's still plenty of time left this season, but if it doesn't dramatically turn around, it's time to reorganize, rebuild the team and some goodwill.

[Chico23231]

George Michael is a bubbling idiot. The reason Snyder is an absolute failure is that he is making the big decisions!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stupid ass needs to hire a real GM. Vinny's days are over, he has done a poor job. This whole thing about not "wanting" to fire Zorn is a true statement, he doesnt want to, but he will if we dont make the playoffs. This article brings nothing to light, yes Marty was a tough guy to work with everybody knew that!!!!!!!!!!! Snyder didnt like G. Williams yes we knew that after he was fired...I work with people I dont like all day long, but he would have done a better job than Zorn period and if we are winning who gives a sh*t. This article makes supports what I already know, Snyder has no f*ing clue what he is doing, jack*ss

[redsk1]

Everyone hated Tom Coughlin and were ready to fire him if you remember. They start winning and he's a god now.

Players and FO's like to win. Winning cures alot. Marty is a winner. He has been no matter where he goes.

I too would welcome a new GM and an experienced OC/DC as our new coach like a Brian Schott. FO has got to change though.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Everyone hated Tom Coughlin and were ready to fire him if you remember. They start winning and he's a god now.

Players and FO's like to win. Winning cures alot. Marty is a winner. He has been no matter where he goes.

I too would welcome a new GM and an experienced OC/DC as our new coach like a Brian Schott. FO has got to change though.

The same thing will hapen here if the team starts winning games. Not winning games is what's sparked all the negative talk about Zorn. Everybody loves a winner. Should we be fortunate enough to go on a winning streak starting Sunday, Zorn will be god too.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Everyone hated Tom Coughlin and were ready to fire him if you remember. They start winning and he's a god now.

Players and FO's like to win. Winning cures alot. Marty is a winner. He has been no matter where he goes.

I too would welcome a new GM and an experienced OC/DC as our new coach like a Brian Schott. FO has got to change though.

Great point...another hard ass coach who in the end earned the respect of his roster and those guys fight for every last inch on the field.

Just for shits and giggles...does anyone here think lil Danny would get along w/ Coughlin? Would he get along w/ any of the great coaches out there right now? Really? How many great coaches strike you as really nice, easy-going blokes?

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Great point...another hard ass coach who in the end earned the respect of his roster and those guys fight for every last inch on the field.

Just for shits and giggles...does anyone here think lil Danny would get along w/ Coughlin? Would he get along w/ any of the great coaches out there right now? Really? How many great coaches strike you as really nice, easy-going blokes?

Yeah...when that was brought up it really pissed me off.

I thought Dan Snyder was supposed to be a hardnosed business man...What a pussy!...he doesn't like people who do things differently than he does. He doesn't like when people don't kiss his ass and treat him like royalty...eff this guy!...get over yourself douchebag!...you're ruining a perfectly good franchise.

Here's a perfect example...if your kids don't say they hate you at least a couple of times over the period of you rearing them...YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB!


Are you listening Dan Snyder???...Right now the coaching staff thinks you're the best owner in the world...you're spoiling the franchise.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Yeah...when that was brought up it really pissed me off.

I thought Dan Snyder was supposed to be a hardnosed business man...What a pussy!...he doesn't like people who do things differently than he does. He doesn't like when people don't kiss his ass and treat him like royalty...eff this guy!...get over yourself douchebag!...you're ruining a perfectly good franchise.

Here's a perfect example...if your kids don't say they hate you at least a couple of times over the period of you rearing them...YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB!


Are you listening Dan Snyder???...Right now the coaching staff thinks you're the best owner in the world...you're spoiling the franchise.

Wait no isn't it more like he's the dad that's WAY TOO INVOLVED in their kids lives. So it's more like he's not letting his daughters date anyone he hasn't approved of. Meanwhile the approved suitors are complete duds, or are great but because of the stigma that he was chosen by Daddy, nothing ever really materializes, and before you know it Daddy's showing him the door . . . I think I've taken that far enough.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by WillH

Wait no isn't it more like he's the dad that's WAY TOO INVOLVED in their kids lives. So it's more like he's not letting his daughters date anyone he hasn't approved of. Meanwhile the approved suitors are complete duds, or are great but because of the stigma that he was chosen by Daddy, nothing ever really materializes, and before you know it Daddy's showing him the door . . . I think I've taken that far enough.

Well...my example was more for the toddler age kids who grab at everything they see in a toy store and you have to tell them no and they end up calling you the worst mother/father in the world.

You're example is good though too...and more amusing : )

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Great point...another hard ass coach who in the end earned the respect of his roster and those guys fight for every last inch on the field.

Just for shits and giggles...does anyone here think lil Danny would get along w/ Coughlin? Would he get along w/ any of the great coaches out there right now? Really? How many great coaches strike you as really nice, easy-going blokes?

I'm going to play devils advocate. Even though they might be the exception to the rule, but three guys off the top of my head that are really nice guys that have Super Bowl rings are Tony Dungy, Dick Vermil, and Joe Gibbs.

With that said the only real "hard asses" that I can think of that have won Super Bowls are Belicheck, Gruden, and Coughlin.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I'm going to play devils advocate. Even though they might be the exception to the rule, but three guys off the top of my head that are really nice guys that have Super Bowl rings are Tony Dungy, Dick Vermil, and Joe Gibbs.

With that said the only real "hard asses" that I can think of that have won Super Bowls are Belicheck, Gruden, and Coughlin.

I think we all can agree that regardless of personality type, nice or mean, every one of those coaches want things done their own way. If their ship sinks it will be because they manned every decision the whole way through.

What Super Bowl caliber coach would want to take on any position where they weren't in command of their ultimate fate?...Nice or mean, I believe a good coach makes the decisions he thinks are needed to succeed, whether it behooves the owner or not.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I'm going to play devils advocate. Even though they might be the exception to the rule, but three guys off the top of my head that are really nice guys that have Super Bowl rings are Tony Dungy, Dick Vermil, and Joe Gibbs.

With that said the only real "hard asses" that I can think of that have won Super Bowls are Belicheck, Gruden, and Coughlin.

I would quickly add Cowher and Tomlin to the hard ass list. Tomlin is a thoughtful person in interviews and overall I think a really high-character guy, but watch him on the sideline and he's as prickly as they come.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I'm going to play devils advocate. Even though they might be the exception to the rule, but three guys off the top of my head that are really nice guys that have Super Bowl rings are Tony Dungy, Dick Vermil, and Joe Gibbs.

With that said the only real "hard asses" that I can think of that have won Super Bowls are Belicheck, Gruden, and Coughlin.

the tuna, ditka, if you want to go way back - lombardi

are you talking only about active, or soon to be active, coaches?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Great point...another hard ass coach who in the end earned the respect of his roster and those guys fight for every last inch on the field.

Just for shits and giggles...does anyone here think lil Danny would get along w/ Coughlin? Would he get along w/ any of the great coaches out there right now? Really? How many great coaches strike you as really nice, easy-going blokes?

After Spurrier left, one of the coaches that was available was Tom Coughlin. For some reason, Coughlin was never on the list of possible coaches at that point. Never understood why.

[SmootSmack]

The problem with Marty is that he arrived right after Norv Turner. Under Turner, there was no accountability and that's a big reason why we underachieved for years under him. Marty came along and said you know what, I don't care how much talent we have here, how many Hall of Famers are on the roster, we're going to work hard and be accountable. But then guys like Darrell Green and Bruce Smith said "Wait a minute, we've been to the Super Bowl and you haven't. We're future Hall of Famers wrapping up our careers. Don't tell us how to play the game."

I would love, love, love for Marty to come back. Love it