79 Mock Drafts: Sam Bradford still Redskins projected choice

[53Fan]

If we don't trade down, I wouldn't mind seeing something like this depending on availability:

#1 Russell Okung LT
#2a Trent Williams LT/RT (If available)
#2b Michael Johnson OG (Should fit in well in zone blocking)
#4a Dan LeFevour QB (If available) or..
#4b Ryan Mathews RB
#5 #7 Best available (Hopefully a C, FS or OLB)

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

If we don't trade down, I wouldn't mind seeing something like this depending on availability:

#1 Russell Okung LT
#2a Trent Williams LT/RT (If available)
#2b Michael Johnson OG (Should fit in well in zone blocking)
#4a Dan LeFevour QB (If available) or..
#4b Ryan Mathews RB
#5 #7 Best available (Hopefully a C, FS or OLB)

I like this only thing I don't believe that Mathews will be there beyond the third round.

[JLee9718]

I gave Zorn the benefit of the doubt and it didn't get the Redskins squat.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by JLee9718

I gave Zorn the benefit of the doubt and it didn't get the Redskins squat.

That was Zorn working with Vinny Cerrato. If anyone can succeed in that situation then I would sure like to see it.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by JLee9718

I gave Zorn the benefit of the doubt and it didn't get the Redskins squat.

I'm willing, for now, to give the new regime a pass when it comes to offense. I'm less willing to give passes when it comes to defense.

[KLHJ2]

All I know is that if the Skins cannot put up a decent fight next year I will be pissed.

[SBXVII]

All right, I know I put this in another thread but this is the "Sam Bradford" thread so I thought I would bring it here also so all could see. Especially if they are interested in him. The writer did an evaluation then was looking at another player and found that Sam impressed him in the video he was reviewing so he did a second review on Sam. Look at the "Bottom Line- Take 2".

Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma | HUDDLE NOTES

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

All right, I know I put this in another thread but this is the "Sam Bradford" thread so I thought I would bring it here also so all could see. Especially if they are interested in him. The writer did an evaluation then was looking at another player and found that Sam impressed him in the video he was reviewing so he did a second review on Sam. Look at the "Bottom Line- Take 2".

Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma | HUDDLE NOTES

Yeah thanks for linking that. I was lukewarm to the idea of Bradford, but after I read that I went and watched all the tape I could find.

He has a very quick release and is crazy accurate. There just seems to be something about him that looks like he knows something most QB's don't. So if we do pick him that means the decision makers see the same stuff and much more.

[irish]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Yeah thanks for linking that. I was lukewarm to the idea of Bradford, but after I read that I went and watched all the tape I could find.

He has a very quick release and is crazy accurate. There just seems to be something about him that looks like he knows something most QB's don't. So if we do pick him that means the decision makers see the same stuff and much more.

I completely agree, when I have watched him he makes it look so easy which tells me he can really see the field. He does have a quick release and is really accurate (2 things the current QB doesnt have) which I think will help a lot even if the line is shakey.

[tootergray34]

have to go QB...I think the majority...including me...is sick of JC's indecisiveness and lack of productivity, even in years where we had a decent line he still wasn't that impressive.

[SBXVII]

I too believe OL is a major issue and throughout the season finally came to grips with the fact we need to upgrade the OL position. But I still can't help thinking that the best of the best QB's usually get drafted pretty high up in the first round. You might get lucky and find a diamond in the rough but drafting someone who is supposed to be a Franchise player and actually live up to it? their drafted pretty high.

Shanahan's type of OL I keep hearing is usually not the top big names on the draft board but more like the smaller faster OL for his system which to me means OL other teams may not be targeting. So the OL we are looking at might be available in later rounds. But if we want a Frachise QB, the sure bets won't usually be available in round 2 or after. Don't get me wrong diamond in the roughs can be found. But most of the QB's picked up beyond the 1st round are more of a crap shoot.

Next year I am hedging my bets that Shanahan will have the team ending with a better record which means if we are thinking of holding out for next yr for a QB (in case JC doesn't work out) most likely it will be harder to get the Franchise QB we want at mid first round or beyond.

How about if we are looking at Shanahan and his staff and being told to stop nit picking Shanahan's decisions on coaching staff, cause he must have put major thought into the decision then we need to do the same with whatever he decides to do with the #4 pick.

[53Fan]

Here's a list of QB's taken in the first round from 1990 to 2002:

Andre Ware #7 ........................Peyton Manning #1
Jeff George #1 ........................Ryan Leaf #2
Dan McGwire #16 ....................Tim Couch #1
Todd Marinovich #24 ................Donovan McNabb #2
David Klinger #6 ......................Akili Smith #3
Tommy Maddox #25 .................Cade McNown #12
Drew Bledsoe #1 .....................Daunte Culpepper #11
Rick Mirer #2 ..........................Chad Pennington #18
Heath Shuler #3 ......................Michael Vick #1
Trent Dilfer #6 ........................David Carr #1
Steve McNair #3 .....................Joey Harrington #3
Kerry Collins #5 .......................Patrick Ramsey # 32
Jim Drunkenmiller #26

[RedskinMike]

Here is a list of starting QB's and where they were drafted
1.NO Drew Brees-2nd
2.IND Peyton Manning-1st
3.NE Tom Brady-6th
4.PIT Ben Rothlisberger-1st
5.SD Phillip Rivers-1st
6.ARZ Kurt Warner-undrafted
7.CHI Jay Cutler-1st
8.CIN Carson Palmer-1st
9.NYG Eli Manning-1st
10.SEA Matt Hasselback-6th
11.DAL Tony Romo-undrafted
12.PHI Donovan NcNabb-1st
13.SL Marc Bulger-6th
14.GB Aaron Rogers-1st
15.KC Matt Cassel-7th
16.ATL Matt Ryan-1st
17.CLE Derek Anderson-6th
18.BAL Joe Flacco-1st
19.TEN Kerry Collins-1st
20.HOU Matt Scaub-3rd
21.JAX David Garrard-4th
22.MIA Chad Pennington-1st
23.BUF Trent Edwards-3rd
24.WAS Jason Campbell-1st
25.SF Shaun Hill- undrafted , Alex Smith-1st
26.DET Matthew Stafford-1st
27.CAR Jake Delhomme-undrafted
28.OAK Jamarcus Russell-1st
29.DEN Kyle Orton-4th
30.MIN Bret Farvre-2nd
31.TB Josh Freeman-1st
32.NYJ Mark Sanchez-1st

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by RedskinMike

Here is a list of starting QB's and where they were drafted
1.NO Drew Brees-2nd
2.IND Peyton Manning-1st
3.NE Tom Brady-6th
4.PIT Ben Rothlisberger-1st
5.SD Phillip Rivers-1st
6.ARZ Kurt Warner-undrafted
7.CHI Jay Cutler-1st
8.CIN Carson Palmer-1st
9.NYG Eli Manning-1st
10.SEA Matt Hasselback-6th
11.DAL Tony Romo-undrafted
12.PHI Donovan NcNabb-1st
13.SL Marc Bulger-6th
14.GB Aaron Rogers-1st
15.KC Matt Cassel-7th
16.ATL Matt Ryan-1st
17.CLE Derek Anderson-6th
18.BAL Joe Flacco-1st
19.TEN Kerry Collins-1st
20.HOU Matt Scaub-3rd
21.JAX David Garrard-4th
22.MIA Chad Pennington-1st
23.BUF Trent Edwards-3rd
24.WAS Jason Campbell-1st
25.SF Shaun Hill- undrafted , Alex Smith-1st
26.DET Matthew Stafford-1st
27.CAR Jake Delhomme-undrafted
28.OAK Jamarcus Russell-1st
29.DEN Kyle Orton-4th
30.MIN Bret Farvre-2nd
31.TB Josh Freeman-1st
32.NYJ Mark Sanchez-1st

According to this, 14 of the 32 starting QB's were not taken in the first round. With some of the notables being Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, and Brett Favre. I'm not sure J. Russell should be counted as a starter. Since 2000, 16 out of the 22 Pro Bowl LT's were former 1rst round picks. 5 were 2nd round picks, and only one was undrafted.

What does all this prove?
(a) If you want an elite tackle you should take one in the first round and that you have an almost 50% chance of getting a starting QB after the first round?

(b) Each year should be approached separately depending on who's available no matter what the stats say?

(c) Lately I've had too much time on my hands?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by RedskinMike

Here is a list of starting QB's and where they were drafted
1.NO Drew Brees-2nd
2.IND Peyton Manning-1st
3.NE Tom Brady-6th
4.PIT Ben Rothlisberger-1st
5.SD Phillip Rivers-1st
6.ARZ Kurt Warner-undrafted
7.CHI Jay Cutler-1st
8.CIN Carson Palmer-1st
9.NYG Eli Manning-1st
10.SEA Matt Hasselback-6th
11.DAL Tony Romo-undrafted
12.PHI Donovan NcNabb-1st
13.SL Marc Bulger-6th
14.GB Aaron Rogers-1st
15.KC Matt Cassel-7th
16.ATL Matt Ryan-1st
17.CLE Derek Anderson-6th
18.BAL Joe Flacco-1st
19.TEN Kerry Collins-1st
20.HOU Matt Scaub-3rd
21.JAX David Garrard-4th
22.MIA Chad Pennington-1st
23.BUF Trent Edwards-3rd
24.WAS Jason Campbell-1st
25.SF Shaun Hill- undrafted , Alex Smith-1st
26.DET Matthew Stafford-1st
27.CAR Jake Delhomme-undrafted
28.OAK Jamarcus Russell-1st
29.DEN Kyle Orton-4th
30.MIN Bret Farvre-2nd
31.TB Josh Freeman-1st
32.NYJ Mark Sanchez-1st

WOW. I don't know how you guys find this stuff cause I simply googled it and couldn't find it. I figured the statistical data would prove me right that the majority of the good QB's were drafted in the top few rounds and you pretty much proved it.

I'm not saying we can't find a decent QB down in the draft further but those are hard to find. If we are finally saying JC is not a Franchise QB but is good enough until we get one or that he is a decent back up then we most likely would need to either look for one in FA or draft one at #4 this year.

I also hope everyone gets off the "hey we are one person away from the play offs" routine. If we look at it as a "rebuilding" process, even though the team hates the word "rebuild", then expectations will be lower and fans will be excited to see Shanny get more then 4 wins next year we should be ok.