Revis and Mankins Not Happy

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Buster

More big name holdouts, could be out until week 10 for Chargers:

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This is getting ridiculous.

Chargers will be fine. Without Phillip Rivers throwing to him Vincent Jackson is a 700 yard receiver at best. They'll be more then fine with Malcolm Floyd as their #1 reciever along with Antonio Gates. Marcus McNeil's a bit more tricky but I'm sure they could survive with Tra Thomas.

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yeah I get that, you still need quality guys in the secondary though. A great front 7 doesn't allow you to get away with garbage on the back end.

Definitely need quality secondary guys, however I'm from the school of thought that an elite safety will do more for your defense then a corner ever could. Over the past few years we've seen guys like Polamalu, Bob Sanders, Darren Sharper, Brian Dawkins, Jarius Byrd, and Ed Reed almost single handily change games on the defensive side of the ball. I can't remember the last time I heard about Champ Bailey being a game changers. In fact the only corners I've heard over the past few years draw in large amounts of praise have been Revis and Nndami. I think it's safe to say the ballhawking safety has replaced the shutdown corner on defense.

I usually think that KC Joyner goes a little overboard with the numbers but sine this supports my point I'm going to go along with it.

KC Joyner
Jets have a system for success
"[Revis] is absolutely -- beyond a shadow of a doubt -- the best cornerback in the league, something backed up by his No. 1 ranking in the cornerback yards-per-attempt (YPA) numbers from the KC Joyner Metricmania section of ESPN's Fantasy Football Magazine. With that being said, it should also be noted which cornerback ranked No. 2 in YPA -- that was Revis' teammate Dwight Lowery. The Jets also placed a third cornerback, Lito Sheppard, in the top 20 in that category last year, thus making them the only team in the league to reach that statistical distinction. That alone indicates just how much the Rex Ryan scheme helps cornerbacks, but the Sheppard case is even more notable when looking at his coverage history prior to coming to New York. In the three years before joining Ryan's defense, Sheppard posted YPA marks of 13.0 (2008), 8.1 (2007) and 8.2 (2006)."

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Chargers will be fine. Without Phillip Rivers throwing to him Vincent Jackson is a 700 yard receiver at best. They'll be more then fine with Malcolm Floyd as their #1 reciever along with Antonio Gates. Marcus McNeil's a bit more tricky but I'm sure they could survive with Tra Thomas.

Rivers and Jackson need each other to be elite, but it's not like he would have a Cutler season if he didn't have his no. 1 WR.

The only offense that VJ would be a 700 yd receiver in is one that runs the ball 550 times in a season.

[GridIron26]

I wonder how Jets could manage this kind of budget, along with other necessities such as extension with Ferguson, Mangold, and Harris..

Report: Jets could make Revis highest-paid DB in history

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;706371]At 28 I'd say we should pass. Not that 28 is too old for an guard but we have Rinehart sitting there and like Thomas and Kelly this guy either needs to become a starter now or find employment elsewhere in 2011.[/QUOT rinehart sucks we really have no depth at o line. mankins is pretty damn good i watched him play for fresno state we could trade fat albert.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I wonder how Jets could manage this kind of budget, along with other necessities such as extension with Ferguson, Mangold, and Harris..

Report: Jets could make Revis highest-paid DB in history

Plus they have Cromartie in the secondary as well. I know his play has leveled off the last few years, but Ryan's system seems to be to Cornerbacks what Shanahan's system is to running backs. If anything Revis has little leverage right now. Right now the extensions to all three players you mentioned are more important than paying Revis's ego.

[Dirtbag59]

Also I almost forgot, the Jet's also drafted Kyle Wilson with their first round pick. So when you factor in Cromartie, Lowery, and Wilson you realize how little leverage Revis has.