Dan Snyder's worst free-agent signing

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

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it has to be aa it was just an all around terrible move. the guy was beat out of his job by troy vincent, by the end of the season he was a f-ing special teams player that had 10 mil guaranteed, it just mind bottling. we should so put ah on special teams

edit: didn't realize we set records for contracts in the nfl with aa and ah

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

[Monkeydad]

Archuleta.

[diehard]

AH because of the amount of money he stole.

[over the mountain]

2 things about the arch deluxe if i remember correctly.

before his benching, he lead the skins in tackles.

the nfl and individual teams chart their own stats of tackles, etc. arch deluxe was the only player i remember that had his own team crediting him with less tackles than the NFL.

to some degree, i think arch was made a scape goat. and he sucked in deep coverage which i thought everyone knew was not his strong suit.

[rbanerjee23]

I went with Arch b/c Fat Al, George, and Sanders were established players. Archuleta was only average to slightly above average and we gave him a monster contract.

[JoeRedskin]

Each bad in their own way. My list from bad to worstest:

4. Deion: Eh. He played hired gun all his career and that's exactly what we got. Didn't really address a need or significantly improve the team, but he punched the clock played the game and went home. He came here for the money, gave a decent (but not outstanding) effort, and left. I don't think he was cancerous to the team or a liability on the field.

Ultimately, the problem with the signing was that Snyder paid prime time bucks for late night entertainment. Ohhhh, Snyder overpaid. shocker.

3. Fat Al: Was okay with the signing at first, bought his act about wanting to succeed, be a HOF'er and Skin forever. He fed me the drug I love and I ate up. Shame on me. He lied. He's a malcontent and a player who's own team mates feel is unreliable during a game. Shame on him.

As for the signing itself, he was the top player in the UFA class, and we had a real need at DL for a playmaker. In hindsight, horrible signing. At the time of signing - obscene though the money was, it wasn't that bad a move.

2. Archulleta: Snyder lowballed Ryan Clark in order to make a slow, injury prone safety the highest player at his position? A guy who's coverage skills are suspect at best?? Why, when we have a perfectly suitable home grown talent who is a mentor to our best defensive player? At the time of signing this was an idiotic move.

Then he gets here! Guess what, the boy can't play. He's a whiny little boy who feels he been treated badly and goes crying to the press (I am sure it was he who was behind the Tom Friend article blasting the Skin's defensive coaches). He is the NFL's answer to "Mr. Softey". In hindsight, it was an even worse signing than it appearred to be originally.

1. Jeff George: I just don't know where to begin. A prima donna all his career, a guy with a rocket for an arm and rocks for a brain. Team? What team? I'm Jeff F'ing George and I can throw the ball through a wall so it doesn't matter that I don't give a sh** about the rest of you.

I don't remember the game - but my most memorable picture of George was in a game we were losing (shocker) and the O-Line was over matched (In part b/c "standing tall" was not one of George's better qualities - why bust your butt for a QB who isn't going to do the same for you). You could f'ing smell the fear radiating from George as he looked out over center. The announcers saw it, the opposing team saw it, and his own team mates saw it. The ball snapped, he took a 3 step drop and literally fell to the turf as an opponent grabbed his shoulder pad. You could see the disgust on his linemen's face (BTW - he had had a couple sacks but that game, but nothing like JC had to deal with on a regular basis this season).

All of Snyder's worst mistakes - paying too much for moderate talent, going for the splashy player rather than the better team player, being incredibly petty (Snyder wouldn't even shake Johnson's hand after a victory) and meddling in the management of the team at all levels were brought out in the George signing and in his time with the Skins.

He was diva, a coward and a loser. And b/c of him, we let a tough as nails, Super Bowl wining QB hit the road.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

While I'm sure you'll come up with some impressive stats somewhere or something, I beg to differ with you on his "on the field" performance. I only remember "PrimeTime" as an underachiever during his brief stay with the 'Skins. I'm not speaking for anyone else but me, but I recall him rarely making tackles and he just appeared to sit back in coverage and wait for someone else to pursue the play. In addition, he too robbed the Redskins for $8 mil for what I considered a poor effort that one season. Ok, I'm ready to be disciplined :-)

As I said in another post he only gave up 1 TD that year. That's off the top of my head, if someone can find the stat feel free. He also had a punt return for a score.

He was a little past his prime when he was here, but still a quality starting corner regardless of how much Danny overpaid for him. And you can't blame that on him, was he supposed to turn down the big money?

Give me Deion anyday over Fat Al.

[CRedskinsRule]

I said Archuleta although he may have been a scapegoat. The thing with Deion is he set the trend of stealing DS' money, and kinda led the way for future FA stealers, culminating with AH thinking he could take 21M and just walk away. I am very glad the FO now is trying to put an end to that specific image!

[MTK]

The thing with AA is, did he go on to do anything anywhere else?? If he did I would buy the scapegoat argument. He was a bad move no doubt but I think we have to point the finger more at Williams and Gibbs for that. I don't think Snyder was the one that roped that turd.

Deion, George, and Fat Al are all on Snyder.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

As I said in another post he only gave up 1 TD that year. That's off the top of my head, if someone can find the stat feel free. He also had a punt return for a score.

He was a little past his prime when he was here, but still a quality starting corner regardless of how much Danny overpaid for him. And you can't blame that on him, was he supposed to turn down the big money?

Give me Deion anyday over Fat Al.

i thought so too, but couldn't find anything. i hated him so much i completely forgot that he played in bmore for two years

Deion Sanders NFL & AFL Football Statistics | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Deion Sanders: Career Stats

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

i thought so too, but couldn't find anything. i hated him so much i completely forgot that he played in bmore for two years

Deion Sanders NFL & AFL Football Statistics | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Deion Sanders: Career Stats

He didn't score, he took it down to like the 9 or something and we kicked a FG that won a game in OT.

Found an article:

14. Oct. 1, 2000

Playing against Tampa Bay, the team that had knocked them out of the 1999 playoffs just 10 months earlier, the Redskins rallied for a 17-14 win in overtime. In this one, the Redskins were sparked by none other than "Prime Time." Deion Sanders returned a punt 57 yards in the overtime session to set up Michael Husted’s game-winning 20-yard field goal. Sanders, known for his exceptional talents as a punt returner, had entered the game with a lowly average of 3.4 yards per punt return on the season. After his flamboyant 57-yard effort, Sanders told reporters: "All you doubters, there’s room on the bandwagon.

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[12thMan]

Hmm..as much as I want to pounce on Fat Al (ewww that sounds nasty), I'm going with Arch Deluxe. Not only was he a mediocre talent to begin with, but he somehow managed to decline once he became a Redskin, and only god knows where he is now.

I guess what I'm saying is Arch wasn't worth that money before we signed him and certainly never lived up to a penny of it after we signed him.

[firstdown]

The worst signing by Snyder was the company he contracted to provide porta potties. Man they suck and they need about a 100 more spread around the parking lots. When he first signed that deal I thought thats the end of waiting in long lines, peeing in the woods, peeing by my car, etc..... Now the lines are even longer and the porta's stink even worse.

[mlmdub130]

After his flamboyant 57-yard effort, Sanders told reporters: "All you doubters, there’s room on the bandwagon.

god i hate him so much

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

2 things about the arch deluxe if i remember correctly.

before his benching, he lead the skins in tackles.

the nfl and individual teams chart their own stats of tackles, etc. arch deluxe was the only player i remember that had his own team crediting him with less tackles than the NFL.

to some degree, i think arch was made a scape goat. and he sucked in deep coverage which i thought everyone knew was not his strong suit.

This is where stats are misleading. His tackle numbers were so high because opposing QB's would look for him and throw to whoever Archuleta was covering. Archuleta was the weak link in the secondary and every Qb knew it. He was benched for a reason, because his level of play was terrible, not because he was made a scape goat. A safety being bad in deep coverage is like a running back being bad at running the ball or a QB being bad at throwing.