Ramsey

wolfeskins · 11-22-2004, 09:33 PM

I, for one, am not completly sold on ben hambooger yet. seems like just yesterday when the steelers had a superstar who went by the name "SLASH".
he was the greatest thing, defenses didn't know what to do, he could leap tall buildings in a single bound, he was KORDELL STEWART. he sucked then and he sucks now. Ben looks good now but lets see if he still looks good in 2 or 3 years.
I'll take patrick over ben. ben plays for a better team but ramsey is a better qb.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-22-2004, 09:37 PM

I have to wait and see how Roethlisberger does throughout the next 16 games. Sometimes, a new QB comes in and he looks great until defenses figure him out and pound him.

But, he looks like the real deal right now; he's got size, speed, an arm, accuracy, and just about everything a QB stud needs.

That Guy · 11-23-2004, 02:06 AM

yeah, i'm not taking anything away from roeth, but i watched him yesterday, and he is NOT the reason they beat the bengals... they can run duce and bettis all day against just about anyone, thats the really scary part of that team... having a good passing game on top of that though? ouch...

still, they'll be down a starting WR when we play them... I'll take whatever i can get.

MTK · 11-23-2004, 09:27 AM

Ben has played very well this year especially for a rookie, but you guys hit the nail on the head. Look at what he's got around him, a great line, two starter quality RB's, quality WR's and an established system and coaching staff.

Redskins_P · 11-23-2004, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Ben has played very well this year especially for a rookie, but you guys hit the nail on the head. Look at what he's got around him, a great line, two starter quality RB's, quality WR's and an established system and coaching staff.

Yeah, a coaching staff that has been there for more than 10 years. What Ben has is a foundation around him and he's making the most out of it. Ramsey is on his 2nd coaching staff in 3 years. If we can just try to be a little more patient maybe we can build something similar here. Continuity is huge in this league. Look at the Patriots for example, shoot look at the freaking Eagles. McNabb has been in the same system for about 4 years now. Look how much he has evolved as a QB.

Patience my friends, patience.

CrazyCanuck · 11-23-2004, 02:57 PM

I thought Ramsey played really well. Granted he wasn't asked to do much, but he didn't force anything or make too many mistakes. He also looked calm in the pocket. While he did overthrow on a couple plays, there were also a few passes where he put the ball in a great spot where only his guy could get it. I remember thinking to myself - "If Brunnell had made that pass it would have been picked for sure."

The playcalling didn't allow him to throw downfield often, but it's hard to blame Gibbs for keeping a short leash. It's his first start of the season and he's playing in Philly against the best team in the NFC. I mean what woulda happened if he came out firing and threw 4 picks? Not exactly a confidence booster for him or the team. Not to mention I'd probably be reading a bunch of "Brees or Kitna" threads right now.

I think as Ramsey becomes more comfortable and Gibbs gains confidence in him he'll start letting him throw deep more often. Right now PR has to focus on the basics and not making mistakes, which he did well this week. In fact this is the exact type of game I thought we'd be seeing from Brunell this year.

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11-22-2004, 09:33 PM	#1
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	I, for one, am not completly sold on ben hambooger yet. seems like just yesterday when the steelers had a superstar who went by the name "SLASH". he was the greatest thing, defenses didn't know what to do, he could leap tall buildings in a single bound, he was KORDELL STEWART. he sucked then and he sucks now. Ben looks good now but lets see if he still looks good in 2 or 3 years. I'll take patrick over ben. ben plays for a better team but ramsey is a better qb.

11-22-2004, 09:37 PM	#2
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	I have to wait and see how Roethlisberger does throughout the next 16 games. Sometimes, a new QB comes in and he looks great until defenses figure him out and pound him. But, he looks like the real deal right now; he's got size, speed, an arm, accuracy, and just about everything a QB stud needs.

11-23-2004, 02:06 AM	#3
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	yeah, i'm not taking anything away from roeth, but i watched him yesterday, and he is NOT the reason they beat the bengals... they can run duce and bettis all day against just about anyone, thats the really scary part of that team... having a good passing game on top of that though? ouch... still, they'll be down a starting WR when we play them... I'll take whatever i can get.

11-23-2004, 09:27 AM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Ben has played very well this year especially for a rookie, but you guys hit the nail on the head. Look at what he's got around him, a great line, two starter quality RB's, quality WR's and an established system and coaching staff.

11-23-2004, 02:57 PM	#6
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	I thought Ramsey played really well. Granted he wasn't asked to do much, but he didn't force anything or make too many mistakes. He also looked calm in the pocket. While he did overthrow on a couple plays, there were also a few passes where he put the ball in a great spot where only his guy could get it. I remember thinking to myself - "If Brunnell had made that pass it would have been picked for sure." The playcalling didn't allow him to throw downfield often, but it's hard to blame Gibbs for keeping a short leash. It's his first start of the season and he's playing in Philly against the best team in the NFC. I mean what woulda happened if he came out firing and threw 4 picks? Not exactly a confidence booster for him or the team. Not to mention I'd probably be reading a bunch of "Brees or Kitna" threads right now. I think as Ramsey becomes more comfortable and Gibbs gains confidence in him he'll start letting him throw deep more often. Right now PR has to focus on the basics and not making mistakes, which he did well this week. In fact this is the exact type of game I thought we'd be seeing from Brunell this year.

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