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Old 12-11-2012, 05:31 PM   #1
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Paulsen is better than Cooley doing what Shanahan wants done out there, or he'd be playing. Cooley hasn't done squat for years now, and our sentimental feelings about Chris won't change that.

And I have no idea why you're dragging other teams' TEs into this discussion. I'm very comfortable with your disagreeing with every thing I said. You're entitled to your opinion -- but I still think you're wrong.

Cooley's done. I hope he goes out in a blaze of glory against the Cowboys, but he will not be on an NFL roster in 2013.

And I love Chris Cooley the Redskin.
Cooley's been doing a good job at blocking, and I don't see the need to have more youth at a position when your two best players (Davis and Paulsen) are in their mid-twenties. Maybe Paul and Cooley will battle it out for that final roster spot. Other than being a good special teams player, I don't think Paul has done much to wow anyone.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:33 PM   #2
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Paulsen is better than Cooley doing what Shanahan wants done out there, or he'd be playing. Cooley hasn't done squat for years now, and our sentimental feelings about Chris won't change that.

And I have no idea why you're dragging other teams' TEs into this discussion. I'm very comfortable with your disagreeing with every thing I said. You're entitled to your opinion -- but I still think you're wrong.

Cooley's done. I hope he goes out in a blaze of glory against the Cowboys, but he will not be on an NFL roster in 2013.

And I love Chris Cooley the Redskin.
Whether Cooley is capable of starting and contributing or not like he has in the past is unknown because he hasn't received that opportunity. Cooley, despite being injured for just about all of the Shanahans coaching tenure until now has still had great seasons in this offense. If Gibbs was still the HC, Cooley would be starting.

Anyway, I brought other teams TEs into the discussion to see just how Paulsen measures up to them. And the fact of the matter is that he just doesn't. If Paulsen develops into a 65-80 catch/1,040 yard/5-7 TDs a year type of TE I will be greatly surprised because he matter-of-factly isn't that type of threat on offense as those other tight ends that I brought up.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:43 PM   #3
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Paulsen is better than Cooley doing what Shanahan wants done out there, or he'd be playing. Cooley hasn't done squat for years now, and our sentimental feelings about Chris won't change that.

And I have no idea why you're dragging other teams' TEs into this discussion. I'm very comfortable with your disagreeing with every thing I said. You're entitled to your opinion -- but I still think you're wrong.

Cooley's done. I hope he goes out in a blaze of glory against the Cowboys, but he will not be on an NFL roster in 2013.

And I love Chris Cooley the Redskin.
This post is factually dull and pure (unsubstantiated) conjecture. Cooley had his best year in 2010.

Chris Cooley, TE for the Washington Redskins at NFL.com

He's also relatively young considering many TE's play well into their 30's in the NFL.

And again, most importantly, he looks quicker than I ever remember him. If you watch the last few games he's coming off the LOS just as quickly as Garcon (who he lines up near to) or any other WR with the exception of Tana who's our quickest guy. And Cooley's football IQ, the ability to find space/gaps in coverage is always there. It's not like he's sustained a head injury.

It's very obvious Mike and/or Kyle or choosing to keep him out of the passing game. Big kudos to Chris for giving it 100% out there and blocking well.
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So you're saying that Logan Paulsen is just as good as Antonio Gates, Martellis Bennett, Jason Witten, Growkoski for the Pats, Jimmy Graham, or Tony Gonzales? Come on, man. Gonzales is undoubtedly the oldest TE starting in the NFL and at 36 he hasn't lost anything. Mike Shanahan has rewarded the starting job to Paulsen because he's worked hard in practice and has been on the team for 3 years. But Logan Paulsen is still not better the Chris Cooley.

I disagree with everything you said.
Are you saying Cooley is as good as those TE's at this point in his career?
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:06 PM   #5
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Are you saying Cooley is as good as those TE's at this point in his career?
so you're saying niles paul is as good as carlester crumpler, zeron flemister, and ernie conwell?
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:08 PM   #6
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Are you saying Cooley is as good as those TE's at this point in his career?
I know you didn't ask me, but when has that ever made a difference lol. I don't think Cooley was ever elite. His only pro bowl nod was in 2007 because he was a TD machine. But his best overall season was 2010 IMO.
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He's a true Redskin and means so much to the community surrounding the DMV. Once Fred Davis went down with an Achilles injury, Cooley was called by the HC. But since Cooley has been back, he hasn't hardly played due to his lowly position on the depth chart and he hasn't caught a pass this season yet.

I have nothing against Logan Paulsen and I'm sure Mike and Kyle know what they're doing by giving Paulsen playing time and developing him. On most NFL teams though, Cooley would be a starter and Paulsen would be a backing him up. I see the Redskins doing the same thing with Chris Cooley as they did with Mike Sellers last season. I hope Cooley isn't fading out. He should be getting more playing time during games.

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The Redskins phased out Sellers because they had a younger, stronger, faster, more talented version of him on the roster. Cooley isnt playing much because he's not as good as Paulsen or Paul. The notion that Cooley would be starting on most NFL rosters is laughable. I'm glad he's on the team, and he is a fan favorite, but his career as a starter is over.
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I think it's time for Cooley to get involved more in passing game.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:45 PM   #9
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REDSKINS4ever, you need to take your emotion out of the conversation. You are such a big Cooley fan that it clouds your judgement of him.
You and GOAT are so caught up with TE being a receiver that you lose sight that the main reason Shanahan has Paulsen and Paul in there instead of Cooley is because they are winning and Paulsen & Paul are good blockers and pass protectors. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Ever heard of that?
It is no coincidence that our offense changed and in turn solidified when Fred Davis and Cooley (not known for their blocking) were either injured or cut.
You guys really underestimate the value of good run blocking TE's in THIS offense even if they are not pass catchers. Up to know we have had enough production through the ground game and RGIII and our WR's, that we can win with out our TE's being heavily involved in the passing attack.
If it works why change it?
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:49 PM   #10
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REDSKINS4ever, you need to take your emotion out of the conversation. You are such a big Cooley fan that it clouds your judgement of him.
You and GOAT are so caught up with TE being a receiver that you lose sight that the main reason Shanahan has Paulsen and Paul in there instead of Cooley is because they are winning and Paulsen & Paul are good blockers and pass protectors. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Ever heard of that?
It is no coincidence that our offense changed and in turn solidified when Fred Davis and Cooley (not known for their blocking) were either injured or cut.
You guys really underestimate the value of good run blocking TE's in THIS offense even if they are not pass catchers. Up to know we have had enough production through the ground game and RGIII and our WR's, that we can win with out our TE's being heavily involved in the passing attack.
If it works why change it?
I give up. Sure, Paul is a good blocker, even though he doesn't do it on gameday. He's also an all pro pass catcher, a fulbright scholar, and a superb chef.
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I give up. Sure, Paul is a good blocker, even though he doesn't do it on gameday. He's also an all pro pass catcher, a fulbright scholar, and a superb chef.
And Cooley is a probowl players and teams were fighting over him when we cut him.
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And Cooley is a probowl players and teams were fighting over him when we cut him.
Correction: Cooley was a probowl player who had his best season in 2010 with Mike Shanahan and he said after being released he preferred to stay in DC to live and play for the Skins again.

See how those darn facts make it so much different than the nonsense you wrote?
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Correction: Cooley was a probowl player who had his best season in 2010 with Mike Shanahan and he said after being released he preferred to stay in DC to live and play for the Skins again.

See how those darn facts make it so much different than the nonsense you wrote?
How? Please explain.
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And Cooley is a probowl players and teams were fighting over him when we cut him.
i read that Cooley turned down quite a few offers, to start even, telling teams if he was going to play again if would be for the Redskins and no one else . . .
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i read that Cooley turned down quite a few offers, to start even, telling teams if he was going to play again if would be for the Redskins and no one else . . .
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