Gang of 9

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Oakland Red

The point I'm trying to make is that they cannot ever make as much money as the Redskins due to inherent disadvantages of the wealth of the area they are in, original ownership wealth, etc.

Sorry but I don't buy this argument that much. It is true that a competive market analysis would show the DC metro area as having a more affluent fan base but GB isn't hurting for fans. And while a more afluent fan base MIGHT mean they will spend less I'd love to see some empirical data to support this. I would venture a guess that with stronger and more innovative marketing GB and other teams in this like could generate comparable revenues to the top teams. Maybe not totally equal but not disparate enough to be of any true consequence. I don't think the differences between the tops teams and most other teams right now have any real consequences anyways. There are SOME teams at the bottom of the rung that simply can't generate revenues that are competitive but mostly these are teams that are either weak on a yearly basis causing a disinterested fan base or simply have bad owners. They only way for these teams to make more money for themselves is to focus on the on-field product and stop dicking the team arond. NE is a great example of having done this. I believe in the early 90s they weren't setting the world on fire in terms of revenues. But a nice run and some good mamangement by Kraft has put this team at the top in terms of revenues. And they didn't get to the top by spending vast amounts of money. They worked hard and got the job done. Other teams ought to take notice. Including the Skins.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Sorry but I don't buy this argument that much. It is true that a competive market analysis would show the DC metro area as having a more affluent fan base but GB isn't hurting for fans. And while a more afluent fan base MIGHT mean they will spend less I'd love to see some empirical data to support this. I would venture a guess that with stronger and more innovative marketing GB and other teams in this like could generate comparable revenues to the top teams. Maybe not totally equal but not disparate enough to be of any true consequence. I don't think the differences between the tops teams and most other teams right now have any real consequences anyways. There are SOME teams at the bottom of the rung that simply can't generate revenues that are competitive but mostly these are teams that are either weak on a yearly basis causing a disinterested fan base or simply have bad owners. They only way for these teams to make more money for themselves is to focus on the on-field product and stop dicking the team arond. NE is a great example of having done this. I believe in the early 90s they weren't setting the world on fire in terms of revenues. But a nice run and some good mamangement by Kraft has put this team at the top in terms of revenues. And they didn't get to the top by spending vast amounts of money. They worked hard and got the job done. Other teams ought to take notice. Including the Skins.

FYI - Your quote has expired. There is now a new T.O. thread up.

[skindogger47]

Originally Posted by Oakland Red

The point I'm trying to make is that they cannot ever make as much money as the Redskins due to inherent disadvantages of the wealth of the area they are in, original ownership wealth, etc.

Having far more money despite the salary cap as it is does still give a competitive advantage. If Dan Snyder maxes the cap, he has a lot left over. If Green Bay maxes the cap, they will have a lot less left over. The Redskins have much more freedom to spend money than teams that have less.

And yes, one way that manifests itself is in coaching salaries.

It's America. Name one business that doesn't work that way. Making money is the name of the game for these owners, and asking other owners to give you their money isn't the best way to increase your profits. Heading up a successful marketing program for your football team and putting a good product on the field goes a long way, though.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

[Hog1]

Be sure and let me know when we are gonna' have the welfare thread! That should be lively.
On the original note, Danny is a smart little sh..
He demonsrated so by the ability to buy the skins at 34 or so for 600ish m. Monetarily, he never looked back. He continues to lead the league in revenue from his ingenuity. To force him to share the fruits of his labor creates a truly socialiist state in a Capitalist country. This is not good for about a Zillion reasons. The sharing that has taken place to date is responsible for the equality in the league at this time. It is also responsible for what has been described as "Vanilla" NFL. Enough is enough, why kill the American dream for the sake of some "do nothin', cry baby" owners looking to ride the backs of the entrepreuners. Want to make more???????? Improvise, adapt, and overcome!--Gunny Tom Highway

[dmek25]

oakland red you just made my point.green bay does nothing but live off owners that will take the initiative to MAKE more money while they sit back and complain about being a small market team.there is no way they want favre to retire because there goes any ability for them to market on a nationwide scale.sign a free agent like T.O. and try to market him,theres lots of money to be had.besides he will help your team win