Are Fans and NFL teams too demanding of players?

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by TheInspector

I have a question for you all: What is classified as "risky" behavior, and what exactly is "common-sense"?

I hear a lot of people saying things like, "he is obligated to prohibit from any 'risky' behavior which may result in injury," or, "he should use common-sense."

I do think that he was senseless by riding without a helmet, but I cannot say that he was lacking
common-sense simply because his principles don't conform to mine. He could be injured horsing-around with his brother, or he could slip and fall. Does that mean he should avoid all behavior which could result in injury (like walking)? Of course not.

We should avoid making general statements like these. If he is bound by his contract to avoid riding motorcycles that is one thing--otherwise, we cannot say he is obligated to avoid risk. It would be better to say that he should avoid any risky behavior, within reason.

Ben just answered both your questions for you in his first public statement after being released from the hospital. It was perhaps what many wanted to hear, and he is taking full responsibility for his behavior and vows not to make the same mistake again. Even he now understands what risky behavior and common sense is, join the parade.

[Dogtag]

You mean there are jobs that don't have restrictions on your personal conduct. Most good jobs have morals clauses or standards of conduct clauses because what you do in your 'private' time can and does reflect upon your professional life.

If you think the NFL restrictions are strict, try thinking about the restrictions put on the clergy ....

It seems to me that if an orgainization has a vested interest in your physical abilities, then they should have a say in protecting that investment.

However, I don't believe fans have a vested interest in any specific player on a team.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Dogtag

However, I don't believe fans have a vested interest in any specific player on a team.

The fans have an obvious emotional investment in the team. But the players are supposed to have the same emotional investment. Yes football is a business, and yes money talks, and of course that plays a big factor here. But in the end, these football players are in the game because they want to win a Superbowl and be the best they can be. Taking part in risky behavior puts your ability to accomplish those goals in jeopardy; and it lets down your coaches, teammates, and fans alike. All of them want to see the team win in the worst way. To me, doing what Roethlisberger did is a major let-down to coaches and teammates who work so hard to win games. Fans are right there, they pour a lot of their own money, but more importantly, their love into their team.

[joebert]

Are patrons too demanding of strippers ?
Are citizens too demanding of politicians ?
Just how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop ?

The world, may never know.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by joebert

Are patrons too demanding of strippers ?
Are citizens too demanding of politicians ?
Just how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop ?

The world, may never know.

welcome joebert. your not still mad about that playoff thing are you?

[joebert]

I guess not chuckisgod, I don't remember what you're talking about.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by joebert

I guess not chuckisgod, I don't remember what you're talking about.

i'll let that one slide just this once:cheeky-sm