Sean Taylor struggling???

[dall-assblows]

my man had 111 tackles. now compare that to the last two years where he was at his best, during his first 2 years he had 70 and 76 tackles. very seldom do you see a saftey lead his team in tackles. for a saftey that is not good, that tells me that he is making up for the players who can't, well, play. he needs more talent on the defense to help him out.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by dall-assblows

my man had 111 tackles. now compare that to the last two years where he was at his best, during his first 2 years he had 70 and 76 tackles. very seldom do you see a saftey lead his team in tackles. for a saftey that is not good, that tells me that he is making up for the players who can't, well, play. he needs more talent on the defense to help him out.

AMEN!!! Show me a safety who leads his team in tackles, and I'll show you a front seven that sucks. Until Gibbs and Williams address that issue, Taylor and Rogers will never develop into the players they can be.

[dall-assblows]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

AMEN!!! Show me a safety who leads his team in tackles, and I'll show you a front seven that sucks. Until Gibbs and Williams address that issue, Taylor and Rogers will never develop into the players they can be.

can you believe this? the expect ST to mak every damn play on defense. unbelievable

[dall-assblows]

he is missing tackles, sure, but he has 111 tackles. he can't make every play. He needs help.

[Redskin]

Disgusting really how sean taylor is being jumped on here when he is without a doubt a top safety. People wonder why sean taylor bites on play action becuas eif he doesent and it is a run its going 20 yards.

[GiantsSuck703]

Taylor regressed because the entire defense was awful, and maybe it has something to do with Dewayne Walker being UCLA defensive cord., he should have been here, but we just let him leave, like pierce, Clark and Smoot. Taylors play has regressed because he has no help, Rogers gets beat and so does Kenny Wright and Taylor has to basically cover all of the recievers on the field and watch the run, thats one hell of an assignment. Even Ed Reed would look suspect if he didnt have the corners he plays behind, and it doesnt hurt to have a pass rush. I would like this topic to be saved, so that when Taylor has a monster year in 07', everybody who ran there mouth about him can enjoy a nice plate of crow.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Taylor regressed because the entire defense was awful, and maybe it has something to do with Dewayne Walker being UCLA defensive cord., he should have been here, but we just let him leave, like pierce, Clark and Smoot. Taylors play has regressed because he has no help, Rogers gets beat and so does Kenny Wright and Taylor has to basically cover all of the recievers on the field and watch the run, thats one hell of an assignment. Even Ed Reed would look suspect if he didnt have the corners he plays behind, and it doesnt hurt to have a pass rush. I would like this topic to be saved, so that when Taylor has a monster year in 07', everybody who ran there mouth about him can enjoy a nice plate of crow.

You're probably the first person to bring up Dewayne Walker's absence, very good observation. I think his departure was the single biggest one the Redskins had over the past three years. His defense at UCLA immediately went from one of the worst to one of the best in the entire nation after his arrival. The same John David Booty that sliced Michigan up yesterday for nearly 400 yds, couldn't even get going against UCLA. He was baffled. Walker's departure certainly hurt us big time, yet you hardly ever hear his name called around Redskins park.

As far as Taylor regressing, maybe...maybe not. One thing is for damn sure, you don't get 111 tackles but not being able to play your position. That has to be some kind of record for a safety. Those are really linebacker type of numbers. Taylor, I think, was victim of his own talent this year and a defense as a whole that went in reverse. If anyone watched the games, he was in on just about ever single play. That's isane.

I want to chalk up a lot of his bad angles to running accross the field trying to make plays or in the backfield trying to make plays. Taylor would often be in coverage one on one in the end zone or downfield with recievers. Something just seems right about that. Yes, he had an off year. but 100+ tackles is quite a bit.

[dmek25]

excuse me. guys, im a redskin fan. that means i want him to do well. but im not understanding why people around here keep giving him a free pass. and 100 tackles, 10 yards down the field doesnt mean a whole lot to me

[chrisl4064]

Originally Posted by dmek25

excuse me. guys, im a redskin fan. that means i want him to do well. but im not understanding why people around here keep giving him a free pass. and 100 tackles, 10 yards down the field doesnt mean a whole lot to me

you all can go to hell, every last one of you who blames sean taylor for regressing. this man has played on special teams both ways, if anything that right there should be an example of not regressing, how about him trying to do anything to win. he was not put on special teams he volunteered to do it. and if he was so bad at tackling (since you all are coaches) then explain to me why he is on the field for every down except for offense where you dont tackle.

i think some members on here are losing sight of something, HE IS OUR BEST PLAYER ON D. i could understand if you want to blame the D-line, or our corners, but dont blame a player in his 3rd year who has done everything possible to win.

personal fouls againsed him we know are not warrented half the time. he does go for the big hit, but i wouldnt say he does it so much he misses tackles, and dont give me the Michael Vick crap, sean came from across the damn field for that hit and Vick had a quick cutback, not only that but on that one play which everyone seems to bring up, he slowed vick down and he only got 3 yeards extra.

im over this thread already you idiot redskins fans that either think sean is regressing or are comparing him to lavar are just stupid. im out.

[dall-assblows]

Originally Posted by dmek25

excuse me. guys, im a redskin fan. that means i want him to do well. but im not understanding why people around here keep giving him a free pass. and 100 tackles, 10 yards down the field doesnt mean a whole lot to me

that means that others are missing tackles. which ST then has to make

[MTK]

It's not really fair in my opinion to single out Taylor or anyone else for that matter. This defense as a whole was just horrible this year and Taylor's play was just a reflection of the entire unit.

[gabe1984]

On the John Thompson radio show last week CP said that the Sean Taylor may be missing tackles, but the tackles he is missing he isn't even supposed to be making. He's basically putting himself in position to make plays that are supposed to be other people's responsibilities, but they're not doing it. I've noticed that myself too, on a lot of his missed tackles he's running to the other side of the field, where it seams that there should have been a lot more skins getting to that player before Taylor has to run all the way over from the other side. So he may be missing tackles, but in many cases Taylor is trying to clean up because people who were in much better position to make the play didn't do it.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

On the John Thompson radio show last week CP said that the Sean Taylor may be missing tackles, but the tackles he is missing he isn't even supposed to be making. He's basically putting himself in position to make plays that are supposed to be other people's responsibilities, but they're not doing it. I've noticed that myself too, on a lot of his missed tackles he's running to the other side of the field, where it seams that there should have been a lot more skins getting to that player before Taylor has to run all the way over from the other side. So he may be missing tackles, but in many cases Taylor is trying to clean up because people who were in much better position to make the play didn't do it.

Well put. I think that could be exactly whats wrong. Plus, losing Ryan Clark I think really affected him as far as communication and knowing where his wingman would be all the time. He had to play with 3 different safeties this year....

[sportscurmudgeon]

The reason I would try to convert him to linebacker is because Sean Taylor spent a lot of time chasing opponents into the end zone this year. His tackling angles werenot always on target and his open field tackling isn't all that great unless he gets a run at a player and can try to blow the oppenent up. Go back and watch the games against the Eagles; Taylor is out of position on pass plays lots of times. Go back and watch the games against the Giants - particularly the second one; Tiki Barber runs amok because of two or three missed tackles by Taylor.

I'm not saying he's a bad player; he's not. But he's playing a position where the things that he does not do well wind up as long gains or TDs for the opponent. I think he might be much better used as a linebacker. I think that conversion would be easier then trying to teach him how to cover people and not bite on fakes so often. I think that conversion would be easier than trying to teach him to tackle in the open field instead of always trying to knock the other player out.

[SmootSmack]

What's with all the personal attacks on this thread?