Defense = Disappointment

T.O.Killa · 09-13-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I think reid doughty would be the extra defender we'd bring in and philip daniels would come off the field and orakpo would go to DE

I saw Reed alot, but I was hoping to see Chris Wilson rushing the passer alot from the SAM when Orakpo was down.

RedBar · 09-13-2009, 11:09 PM

I think the defense was definitely a disappointment, the secondary let an inexperienced wr corps look good. Even when they were in the right position they missed tackles(Smoot and Landry come to mind) and Deangelo played terribly. There were some positives and some guys had great efforts but as a unit they underperformed. When the Giants tried to attack the heart of the defense they got nowhere except for a couple of runs by Bradshaw, but when they attacked our so called skilled positions in space they made us look bad. This lost was a team effort the defense definitely did not play well enough and with the exception of a long, when it didn't really matter touchdown drive against the prevent, the offense didn't play well enough either.

skinsfan69 · 09-13-2009, 11:54 PM

The defense reminded me of last year. They kept the score down but when we need a stop they can't do it. However the defense did not lose this game. This one is 100% on the offense. Defense gave them the ball deep in NY's territory and we had to settle for 3. That was awful. JC's turnover led two 7 points and we lost by 6. There is your game right there.

GTripp0012 · 09-14-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The defense reminded me of last year. They kept the score down but when we need a stop they can't do it. However the defense did not lose this game. This one is 100% on the offense. Defense gave them the ball deep in NY's territory and we had to settle for 3. That was awful.

Well, even if they didn't suck in that one short-field third quarter drive and threw a TD, that's still a two point deficit that couldn't be covered unless we had found another possession somewhere.

We didn't have the ball long enough for that single offensive failure to matter.

Now, if you score a touchdown there AND you don't fumble away that defensive TD, and you don't get intercepted on a pass over the line, then we probably win the game in spite of the defense, but do we really need to be flawless on offense before we admit the defense choked the big one?

Ruhskins · 09-14-2009, 12:13 AM

I think the defense is a disappointment because they are supposed to be the stronger part of our team and that didn't show.

The DBs played terrible, since they couldn't cover wideouts who had no more than 1-year of experienced.

Landry seemed to be more concerned with hitting Brandon Jacob as payback for last year (leading to the personal foul) than actually playing the game.

Our line didn't generate enough rush to affect the passing game.

The offense had its issues too (but what a freaking concept, I'll talk about that in the thread for that topic!) but it is hard to overlook these deficiencies in the defense. Once again, let's stop pin the fault of a bad game on a single unit or player. Just as it takes a team to win, you also lose as a team.

53Fan · 09-14-2009, 12:22 AM

Some of the defense played well most of the time. Some of the defense played well very little of the time. You can't win like that.

saden1 · 09-14-2009, 12:55 AM

My argument is that the defense didn't suck as much as the offense. This loss cannot be blamed on the defense, certainly not more so than the offense.

GTripp0012 · 09-14-2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

My argument is that the defense didn't suck as much as the offense.

Well, you're wrong.

saden1 · 09-14-2009, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, you're wrong.

In these matters I am never wrong. Have you explored the possibility that you're wrong?

GTripp0012 · 09-14-2009, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

In these matters I am never wrong. Have you explored the possibility that you're wrong?

Yeah, but, it was kind of ridiculous and a complete waste of my time.

You kind of ran out of steam around the time you claimed that we got away from running the ball. The rest of the time, you've just been playing catch-up.

Theory: they stuck you with Rams-Seahawks out there.

saden1 · 09-14-2009, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yeah, but, it was kind of ridiculous and a complete waste of my time.

You kind of ran out of steam around the time you claimed that we got away from running the ball. The rest of the time, you've just been playing catch-up.

Theory: they stuck you with Rams-Seahawks out there.

For help in assessing your wrongness you might want to watch the Zorn press-conference on redskins.com.

I don't live on a mountain, we have sports bars out here too.

dan_snyder69 · 09-14-2009, 01:50 AM

defense will be fine. i think people are underestimating just how good these Giants receivers are. i agree that offense was much more of a problem than defense today.

itvnetop · 09-14-2009, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dan_snyder69

defense will be fine. i think people are underestimating just how good these Giants receivers are. i agree that offense was much more of a problem than defense today.

I agree that the NYG receivers are really underrated- only because their combined years experience is so low. Smith has been one of the best route runners I've seen since college- and he rarely ever drops a ball. Hixon is up and coming and Nicks seems to have been a steal in the draft.

But our secondary play was the pits yesterday... sloppy tackling, bad angles, nonsensical scheme (or maybe our guys are just playing to headhunt/make big plays).

Trample the Elderly · 09-14-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by itvnetop

I agree that the NYG receivers are really underrated- only because their combined years experience is so low. Smith has been one of the best route runners I've seen since college- and he rarely ever drops a ball. Hixon is up and coming and Nicks seems to have been a steal in the draft.

But our secondary play was the pits yesterday... sloppy tackling, bad angles, nonsensical scheme (or maybe our guys are just playing to headhunt/make big plays).

Bingo We Have A Winner

number21isabadman · 09-14-2009, 02:24 AM

In my mind the only TD we scored today was on a fake fg, the td at the end was a pitty td in the fact they ny was playing prevent d, and quit applying pressure on the offense. We had plenty of chances to come back, but like always the offense was anemic.

09-13-2009, 11:09 PM	#2
RedBar Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 45	Re: Defense = Disappointment I think the defense was definitely a disappointment, the secondary let an inexperienced wr corps look good. Even when they were in the right position they missed tackles(Smoot and Landry come to mind) and Deangelo played terribly. There were some positives and some guys had great efforts but as a unit they underperformed. When the Giants tried to attack the heart of the defense they got nowhere except for a couple of runs by Bradshaw, but when they attacked our so called skilled positions in space they made us look bad. This lost was a team effort the defense definitely did not play well enough and with the exception of a long, when it didn't really matter touchdown drive against the prevent, the offense didn't play well enough either.

09-13-2009, 11:54 PM	#3
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,439	Re: Defense = Disappointment The defense reminded me of last year. They kept the score down but when we need a stop they can't do it. However the defense did not lose this game. This one is 100% on the offense. Defense gave them the ball deep in NY's territory and we had to settle for 3. That was awful. JC's turnover led two 7 points and we lost by 6. There is your game right there. Last edited by skinsfan69; 09-14-2009 at 12:09 AM.

09-14-2009, 12:13 AM	#5
Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,378	Re: Defense = Disappointment I think the defense is a disappointment because they are supposed to be the stronger part of our team and that didn't show. The DBs played terrible, since they couldn't cover wideouts who had no more than 1-year of experienced. Landry seemed to be more concerned with hitting Brandon Jacob as payback for last year (leading to the personal foul) than actually playing the game. Our line didn't generate enough rush to affect the passing game. The offense had its issues too (but what a freaking concept, I'll talk about that in the thread for that topic!) but it is hard to overlook these deficiencies in the defense. Once again, let's stop pin the fault of a bad game on a single unit or player. Just as it takes a team to win, you also lose as a team. __________________ R.I.P. #21

09-14-2009, 12:22 AM	#6
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Defense = Disappointment Some of the defense played well most of the time. Some of the defense played well very little of the time. You can't win like that. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

09-14-2009, 12:55 AM	#7
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: Defense = Disappointment My argument is that the defense didn't suck as much as the offense. This loss cannot be blamed on the defense, certainly not more so than the offense. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

09-14-2009, 01:50 AM	#12
dan_snyder69 Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: maryland & south carolina Posts: 92	Re: Defense = Disappointment defense will be fine. i think people are underestimating just how good these Giants receivers are. i agree that offense was much more of a problem than defense today. __________________ Moving to the South only has one drawback: No FedEx Field!

09-14-2009, 02:24 AM	#15
number21isabadman Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oregon Age: 40 Posts: 157	Re: Defense = Disappointment In my mind the only TD we scored today was on a fake fg, the td at the end was a pitty td in the fact they ny was playing prevent d, and quit applying pressure on the offense. We had plenty of chances to come back, but like always the offense was anemic.

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