The next Clinton Portis trashtalk victim: Lavar Arrington

[redsk1]

I don't know who's crazier, LA or CP. You can't argue the fact that CP has alienated alot of former Skins and current teamates. He's really worn his welcome out.

[MTK]

I don't even have the energy to read LA's response

[RiggoDrill]

LaVar's rant was a thing of beauty in many ways, if you can get past all the "it is what it is" segments.

My perception of him as a player was always that he was a free lancer and media whore who had great talent and ability but left most of it unrealized. He is fun to listen to on the radio though.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yet you're in favor of bringing in Brandon Marshall... sorry I guess I'll just never understand.

Here is the difference. I don't remember BM calling out teammates and coaches to the media. See to me that's the WORST thing a teammate can do. He's done it numerous times. Enough already! Marshall is a immature baby...we all know that. Part of that is cause he wants a new deal. Get the guy a new deal and some of his issues go away. Oh..and let's not forget the production. CP is not a difference maker... BM is.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Here is the difference. I don't remember BM calling out teammates and coaches to the media. See to me that's the WORST thing a teammate can do. He's done it numerous times. Enough already! Marshall is a immature baby...we all know that. Part of that is cause he wants a new deal. Get the guy a new deal and some of his issues go away. Oh..and let's not forget the production. CP is not a difference maker... BM is.

I'm not saying you haven't thought it through, I don't know as much about Marshall other than his making the news a bit too much. He's for sure a top 5 wr. It sounds like your description of Marshall about fits what CP was when he was in Denver; CP got a new deal here, and on top of that restructured & got a heap of $ guaranteed.

Did that change his behavior? I'd say to some extent it's made him worse.

[MTK]

Yeah I'm not sure how throwing $$ at a spoiled brat is going to reform him in any way

[Chico23231]

Yeah I was one who thought Brandon Marshall might be a fit here, but it was more because of Shanny being here and his attitude might flourish rather than go the way of CP. I really dont see CP conforming the same way at this point with Shanny. One thing I feel is Shanny is going to want to add a receiver into his offense.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I'm not saying you haven't thought it through, I don't know as much about Marshall other than his making the news a bit too much. He's for sure a top 5 wr. It sounds like your description of Marshall about fits what CP was when he was in Denver; CP got a new deal here, and on top of that restructured & got a heap of $ guaranteed.

Did that change his behavior? I'd say to some extent it's made him worse.

well maybe, maybe not. pat bowlen said recently that he wanted marshall back cause he felt he's done a lot of growing up.

[SolidSnake84]

I think Portis' biggest problem here is that he knows he will get paid no matter what...thats why he doesnt care about practicing, playing well or basically doing anything. Portis knows he has no incentive now to do anything different....hell even if we cut his ass he still gets paid!!! Why would he care???

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

well maybe, maybe not. pat bowlen said recently that he wanted marshall back cause he felt he's done a lot of growing up.

People can always grow up, maybe he has, though the way the season ended w/Marshall I wouldn't be too confident.

The point of my post & Matty's was that your logic in wanting Marshall didn't jibe w/the standards you were judging CP by. Both of them have demonstrated very selfish behavior around their team.

I do appreciate the point about Marshall not throwing teamates under the bus. CP is more TO like in that regard. On the other hand, CP has never been in any real trouble like Marshall has. Marshall has been in the news for his fight w/his fiance I believe, and of course the incident in which he "accidentally fell" and cut himself. That's something you've got to consider about a guy you'd have to pay $40 mil or so guaranteed to in order to sign.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

well maybe, maybe not. pat bowlen said recently that he wanted marshall back cause he felt he's done a lot of growing up.

Could just be that Bowlen is trying to keep Marshall's trade value high but praising his attitude. No one questions his talent, but it's his attitude that could keep his stock lower than the Broncos would like

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Could just be that Bowlen is trying to keep Marshall's trade value high but praising his attitude. No one questions his talent, but it's his attitude that could keep his stock lower than the Broncos would like

That certainly makes sense. BM's antic's are what has made it more difficult to trade him for the most value. If he's really changed, you'd think they'd keep him. Problem solved. His talent is certainly not under question.

[Longtimefan]

Still trying to figure out who Arrington was directing his long drawn out and emphatic rant towards, but if it was directed at Portis he should have said it to him instead of over the airways. Found it interesting with him sounding as if he was trying to serve up some form of life lesson to the youth. I don't want my grandchildren listening to much of anything he has to say, for he could use some life lessons himself.

When LaVar was drafted a Redskin I said to anyone willing to listen that he was eventually going to become a problem, mainly because of the people he chose to represent him. He didn't disappoint, he became a problem then and even from a distance now he's still a problem. It's time to leave all that old has-been nonsense in the past. We no longer need these on-going distractions with Portis, past and current Redskins. Enough already.

[Son Of Man]

Oh Joy! Another Portis bashing thread from the Snake man! This is becoming a weekly occurence.

BTW- LaVar Arrington is a jaded former player who takes every opportunity to bash the organization and even Coach Gibbs. He left uncermoniuosly, went to the G-Men, and did NOTHING! He was a player of superior talent who unfortunately was incorrigible and thought too much of himself. Seems to be the same gripe people have about CP...so who gives a shit what either one says about the other. One's a jaded former player using the media to air his grievences and the other is a current player who needs to learn when to just zip it. Their arguement can be summed up with, "Hey kettle, you're black".

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Still trying to figure out who Arrington was directing his long drawn out and emphatic rant towards, but if it was directed at Portis he should have said it to him instead of over the airways. Found it interesting with him sounding as if he was trying to serve up some form of life lesson to the youth. I don't want my grandchildren listening to much of anything he has to say, for he could use some life lessons himself.

When LaVar was drafted a Redskin I said to anyone willing to listen that he was eventually going to become a problem, mainly because of the people he chose to represent him. He didn't disappoint, he became a problem then and even from a distance now he's still a problem. It's time to leave all that old has-been nonsense in the past. We no longer need these on-going distractions with Portis, past and current Redskins. Enough already.

i guess i just don't remember him being that big of a problem

i liked how he said portis wears fairy costumes, priceless