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Old 09-17-2010, 01:28 PM   #1
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Re: Haslett's Defense

I think the defense's effort in week 1 was very solid. Remember guys, no matter what we think of there coaching staff Dallas is still one of the most talented teams in the NFL. To discredit the schemes Haslett cooked up as ineffective because we had 1 sack, has some to do with the holding, and some to do with the fact that they are quality team with Many above average players. Sure we are from set, and there a lot of questions that need to answered yet. But I think we get a much better taste of how tough we will be to prepare for schematically against Houston. While they are as talented at the skill positions as Dallas, I don't think they are as deep or talented on the O-line (excluding Barron of course).

I still think the major questions reside with the offense. We are going to need to score some points and until we are able to gel as a unit, even if our defense is stout, we can't win every game 13-7.
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Old 09-17-2010, 01:32 PM   #2
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Re: Haslett's Defense

I think teams have realized Horton's playmaking ability. He should get in the game more.
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Old 09-17-2010, 01:38 PM   #3
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^^ I agree, and especially with your last sentence. It's virtually the same as most people are saying that weighed in. It's not about bitching or complaining, but more about how we'd like to see the defense improve. I find no fault in that.
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Old 09-17-2010, 01:45 PM   #4
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I really don't understand all the love for Haslett defenses. They were good at best, never great. Regardless of whether or not he gives teams different looks I'm worried about our run and pass defense. We need to do better.
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Old 09-19-2010, 08:53 PM   #5
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After today game I just wanted to point out that Hasletts defense has always been ranked low, like 12-27th in the league overall. However the defenses have been high turnover type defenses. You can definitely win with this defense, being that its only week two, so we haven't fully learned it, and the fact that the Saints won with a so-so overall defense last year and a great turnover defense.

Really the Question mark players on this defense are: Kemo, Andre Carter, the secondary as a whole, and sometimes Gholston. If we got a better NT, we would already be that much better.
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Old 09-21-2010, 04:36 PM   #6
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Oh by the way, we have the worst defense in the NFL

32nd according to NFL.com...
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Old 09-21-2010, 04:48 PM   #7
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Re: Haslett's Defense

5) Why is it that we can never get to Romo? I feel like every time any other team goes against him, they can get a few sacks against him, but when we go against them we make the whole OLine and the QB look like pro bowlers.




this has bothered me for years..i think it boils down to two reasons.

1. our defense (esp. the coaching staff) never seems to know what the other team (in this case Romo, dallas) is doing. This also applies to our yearly lack of interceptions as well.

2. it seems like other teams simply have better athletes than we do. And alot of that comes from stockpiling draft picks/having a younger team on the field.
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Old 09-21-2010, 05:03 PM   #8
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5) Why is it that we can never get to Romo? I feel like every time any other team goes against him, they can get a few sacks against him, but when we go against them we make the whole OLine and the QB look like pro bowlers.




this has bothered me for years..i think it boils down to two reasons.

1. our defense (esp. the coaching staff) never seems to know what the other team (in this case Romo, dallas) is doing. This also applies to our yearly lack of interceptions as well.

2. it seems like other teams simply have better athletes than we do. And alot of that comes from stockpiling draft picks/having a younger team on the field.
The Bears didn't sack him at all. We sacked him once.
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:40 PM   #9
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The Bears didn't sack him at all. We sacked him once.
I have to give it to Romo, he is amazingly elusive. No one out there is better than him when it comes to getting out of the pocket and escaping pressure.
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Old 09-21-2010, 07:42 PM   #10
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Re: Haslett's Defense

What is our defense ranked in PPG?

Id take 18.5 ppg with the offense we showed this past week, even with our questionable recieving corps.........
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Old 09-21-2010, 07:49 PM   #11
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What is our defense ranked in PPG?

Id take 18.5 ppg with the offense we showed this past week, even with our questionable recieving corps.........
Yeah we're ranked 16th in the league in terms of PPG, not that good of a number IMO
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Re: Haslett's Defense

The coaching staff thought process must be blitz blitz blitz they can't stop them all eventually we will get them.
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:03 PM   #13
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Re: Haslett's Defense

Biggest concerns entering the season....
WR's...
Ability to run
Switch to 3-4 and Haslett as a d coordinator (always ranked lower than Blache and skins predicesors)

Well...its true...McNabb makes our lame WR's look better...
We cant run
We still likely cant stop the run and now we cant stop the pass.
Our top 10 Defense is now crap...I know it is only 2 weeks but...our defense has blown 2 games in the end...and we won one because of a penalty.

Starters such as Daniels are on the bench...DE's are playing out of position at LB, unknows are playing the Dline and our safetys have not been shored up....blitzing 75% of the time only works with killer cover guys...we have one or two of those tops...not 3-4.

Haslett is the weak link for sure on this coaching staff....we all knew it from the beginning.
It is time for him to fix this crappy defense and use more discression with the blitz...I wouldn't mind a little bit of smashing WR's at the line too...this 10-15 yards off crap is just as sucky as last year...the problem is because we blitz with no suprise...we don't get there and they are tearing up our secondary.

I'd be pleased with a 4-3 with the same players as last year with more aggressive play calling...that would likely yield a far better result with this personnel
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:12 PM   #14
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Re: Haslett's Defense

To be fair I think we need to give this thing more than 2 games to call Haslett a weak link. We've gone up against two top offenses so far.
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:17 PM   #15
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To be fair I think we need to give this thing more than 2 games to call Haslett a weak link. We've gone up against two top offenses so far.
Perhaps...but you've got to admit...out of Shanny, Shanny JR and Haslett....that Haslett had the weakest coaching background results of the 3....not to mention Shanny's tendancy to select and churn through average D coordinators.

It is a shame...because, even though I was expecting a decline in defensive capability due to the scheme shift...I sure expected them to be able to force a few more punts than they have....due to their ability to stop offenses...not due to opponents errors such as the Dallas game.

Lets see how much yardage they give up to a crap team....especially late in the game.
I frankly cannot understand how you can give up that much yardage to an average team with a 17 pt lead late in the game...."prevent" would have yielded better results. The Houston game was a disgrace...great first impression!
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