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Old 08-30-2011, 02:23 PM   #1
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Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed

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LL doesn't have the injury history Vick does, apples and oranges too as LL isn't going to get this kind of money.

But given the fact LL is still iffy health wise, I would wait. I would have waited til midseason at the earliest anyway.
Landry has sustained a couple/few injures of concern (obviously the achilles most notably) so I'm not sure I'd call him injury prone yet...
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:43 AM   #2
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Just not sure what the rush was to lock him up. If I were the Eagles I would have made him prove himself another season. Prove he can stay healthy over 16 games, and not fade out after a hot start.
Wasn't Vick about to become an UFA after this season? If so, I guess the Eagles did not want Vick on the open market?
Since the Eagles traded DM and Kolb away, they essentially put all of their eggs in one basket. I believe they have not yet drafted the heir apparent. Vince Young is a huge gamble that may or may not pay off, but they do not have anyone else at that position. When it comes to Qb's the Eagles seem to have the old Joe Gibbs I ability to take almost any QB and have them be productive.
I agree that they paid too much guaranteed money for a 30+ QB.

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Old 08-30-2011, 08:32 AM   #3
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#Notmakingitrain: 40% of Mike Vick's massive contract goes to creditors & has to follow court-ordered budget until 2015 es.pn/fLwHcB
Interesting article in the link, Michael Vick's MVP-caliber season looks even better in light of off-field distractions he faces from his bankruptcy status, and a look at Anheuser-Busch's lawsuit against MLB - ESPN. As always, you might notice that the lawyers are the ones making a ton off of Vick.

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Old 08-30-2011, 08:53 AM   #4
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Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed

I was in grad school at VT when Vick had his magical year & our Hokies lost to FSU in the nat'l title, so a part of me is always pulling for him. Now he's w/the iggles so I can only root for him so much.

He's been almost as injury prone his whole career as he has been exciting. I think he peaked last year, and he also did that w/virtually no expectations. This year it's all on him & his team to win it all.

In his second year as starter in college, he was a SI cover boy in preseason. He hurt his ankle & couldn't go full strength v. Miami, and that was the team's only loss. I would be shocked if he's not hurt at some point in the season & misses some games. It really is a question of when.
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Old 08-30-2011, 09:06 AM   #5
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was he overpaid? yes. Woulda just about any contract numbers made us say he is overpaid? yes. Do i really care what Vick makes? no
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Old 08-30-2011, 09:19 AM   #6
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I think the contract ties the eagles into a long term deal with an injury waiting to happen...I am more than just okay with that!
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Old 08-30-2011, 11:23 AM   #7
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I think the contract ties the eagles into a long term deal with an injury waiting to happen...I am more than just okay with that!
Agreed.

6yrs is a long time for a QB who makes his living with his legs. If I was Philly I would invest heavily in a top notch back up QB.
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:19 PM   #8
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Agreed.

6yrs is a long time for a QB who makes his living with his legs. If I was Philly I would invest heavily in a top notch back up QB.
They just traded one away.

No way he's able to finish out the 6 years. He may be playing in the latter years of the contract, but he may be forced to be more of a pocket passer than runner due to age and injuries...and won't be playing up to the level of his paycheck. He's a mediocre 55% career passer. He's also prone to mistakes with 66 fumbles and 58 INTs in his 80 career starts. Yes, he hits big plays but he also blows a lot of opportunities for his team, he's the ultimate gambler on the field. As he ages, the big play:mistake ratio will get uglier if he does not learn how to become a fundamental QB. Last year's passing stats are an anomaly over his career. We'll see if he can repeat them. Those numbers are also inflated due to his early hot start. Later in the season, his numbers were down. Consistency is not one of his traits.

Even last season, defenses were figuring out how to defend him and were really minimizing his success. He also has played 16 games ONLY ONCE since 2001.

Could this work out great short-term for Philly IF he stays healthy? Absolutely. Will they get their 6 years of greatness? Most likely not.
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Old 08-30-2011, 09:27 AM   #9
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Good for him. Glad he's turned his life around. He earned the raise. But I will never forgive what he did. Ever.
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:30 AM   #10
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Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed

Lest we forget that the NFL is an entertainment industry. Vick, love him or hate him, is a dynamic player who attracts viewers for and against him. A game with Vick in it, is a game that more people will watch, which in turns drives ratings, memorabilia sales, jersey sales, attendance, etc. His Q-factor is worth the $100M and Jeff Lurie knows this as well as anyone, as does Goodell, who certainly went out of his way to give Vick a leg up back into the league.

The NFL is a business, and Vick is a money maker regardless of whether he wins you the game. He earned his contract... maybe not purely based on "field-performance" but he earned it no doubt.
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Old 08-31-2011, 09:52 AM   #11
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Lest we forget that the NFL is an entertainment industry. Vick, love him or hate him, is a dynamic player who attracts viewers for and against him. A game with Vick in it, is a game that more people will watch, which in turns drives ratings, memorabilia sales, jersey sales, attendance, etc. His Q-factor is worth the $100M and Jeff Lurie knows this as well as anyone, as does Goodell, who certainly went out of his way to give Vick a leg up back into the league.

The NFL is a business, and Vick is a money maker regardless of whether he wins you the game. He earned his contract... maybe not purely based on "field-performance" but he earned it no doubt.
Best post of this thread, but I would slightly disagree w/your last paragraph, he had a hell of a year last year. At the end he showed his flaws, but he still had a great year. I think he peaked, but the signing makes sense for a few reasons, including what you mention in 1st paragraph.
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Michael Vick - 2000 - Rare Photos of Michael Vick - Photos - SI.com

Pretty good look back through the career. The comeback is pretty damn impressive.

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Old 08-30-2011, 11:44 AM   #13
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Michael Vick - 2000 - Rare Photos of Michael Vick - Photos - SI.com

Pretty good look back through the career. The comeback is pretty damn impressive.

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Michael Vick - 2000 - Rare Photos of Michael Vick - Photos - SI.com

Pretty good look back through the career. The comeback is pretty damn impressive.

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I'm fond of slide #10...hope to see that again!
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:11 PM   #15
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Michael Vick - 2000 - Rare Photos of Michael Vick - Photos - SI.com

Pretty good look back through the career. The comeback is pretty damn impressive.

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He looks high in photo 21
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