Roger Goodell says NFL considering eliminating extra point

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by irish

Extra points are made 98.4% of the time.

How Many Extra Point Kicks are Missed on Average in the NFL? - SportingCharts.com

That stat argues the point. We sit through successful PAT's 98.4% of the time, with misses occurring a rare 1.6% of the time.

I don't know about anyone else but I will often go to the bathroom, go to the kitchen, etc., during extra points. Watching them is pointless (no pun). On the rare occasion when one is missed, I can be sure of a replay.

[Chico23231]

Dont change it, and can we bring back cassette tapes for music and VCRs please

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Dont change it, and can we bring back cassette tapes for music and VCRs please

Hey why not, those weren't broke either!

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Hey why not, those weren't broke either!

True but the new media are more compact, have more capacity, and better resolution. In short they are an improvement. I dont understand how eliminating the PAT will improve the game.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

True but the new media are more compact, have more capacity, and better resolution. In short they are an improvement. I dont understand how eliminating the PAT will improve the game.

You don't understand how adding some excitement to what's already the most boring and automatic play in the game improves things?

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

You don't understand how adding some excitement to what's already the most boring and automatic play in the game improves things?

They already have a chance to go for 8 points or stay at 6. This doesnt seem like an improvement or excitement adder. It seems like an XFL gimmic.

[htownskinfan]

I'm one of the grumpy old men that dont want to change it.Theyve changed way too much over the yrs already.Pretty soon every drive will just start from the 20 yard line with no punting or kickoffs allowed.If you want to move the ball back to make it harder than ok,but dont eliminate it

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I'm one of the grumpy old men that dont want to change it.Theyve changed way too much over the yrs already.Pretty soon every drive will just start from the 20 yard line with no punting or kickoffs allowed.If you want to move the ball back to make it harder than ok,but dont eliminate it

I'm a grumpy old man (66) who has long thought the extra point to be useless.

I've disliked the idea of games being decided by kicks for a long time. I wouldn't mind if the field goal was eliminated, as well. If field goals were eliminated, we'd find out which team is truly the better team. Then, if teams want to win, they'd better be able to stick the ball in the end zone. If there are more ties, I'm OK with that. The better teams will still emerge over the course of a full season.

The new kickoff rule has already virtually eliminated kickoff returns. Honestly, I liked it the way it used to be because I find kickoff and punt returns to be an exciting part of the game. Yet, it's time for us to realize and accept that the NFL kicking game is on a slippery slope. If the lawyers who run the NFL office are going to eventually eliminate the kicking game in its entirety they might as well do it now.

The game can start with one team having the ball on it's own 20 yard line. Punts, perhaps renamed "Give Ups", would simply involve a HC waving a white flag and the officials would move the ball 40 yards downfield where the other team's offense would start.

[irish]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I'm a grumpy old man (66) who has long thought the extra point to be useless.

I've disliked the idea of games being decided by kicks for a long time. I wouldn't mind if the field goal was eliminated, as well. If field goals were eliminated, we'd find out which team is truly the better team. Then, if teams want to win, they'd better be able to stick the ball in the end zone. If there are more ties, I'm OK with that. The better teams will still emerge over the course of a full season.

The new kickoff rule has already virtually eliminated kickoff returns. Honestly, I liked it the way it used to be because I find kickoff and punt returns to be an exciting part of the game. Yet, it's time for us to realize and accept that the NFL kicking game is on a slippery slope. If the lawyers who run the NFL office are going to eventually eliminate the kicking game in its entirety they might as well do it now.

The game can start with one team having the ball on it's own 20 yard line. Punts, perhaps renamed "Give Ups", would simply involve a HC waving a white flag and the officials would move the ball 40 yards downfield where the other team's offense would start.

I agree about kick offs, the new rule has made them a worthless waste of time. I'd eliminate the KO before the PAT.

[MTK]

People scoffed at the idea of adding the 2 pt conversion years ago too.

Fact is people hate change even when it's for the better.

I don't see how changing up the most boring play in the game is a bad thing at all.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

People scoffed at the idea of adding the 2 pt conversion years ago too.

Fact is people hate change even when it's for the better.

I don't see how changing up the most boring play in the game is a bad thing at all.

I agree. Add some excitement to it. I like what Goodell is trying to do here.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

People scoffed at the idea of adding the 2 pt conversion years ago too.

Fact is people hate change even when it's for the better.

I don't see how changing up the most boring play in the game is a bad thing at all.

The 2 point conversion was in college ball so it wasnt like adding it was a radical concept. I liked when they added the 2pt conversion but this isnt change for the better.

The kick off is the most boring play in the game, not the PAT.

[skinsguy]

I don't know why people keep calling the kick-off from the 35 yard line a new rule. It's not a new rule. It's simply a rule that was changed back from what it was before.

Anyway, as for the change on the PAT - I'm all for change. If you're going to leave the PAT where it's at, might as well just take on the seventh point when the TD is scored. It's practically the same thing. There's no drama or excitement on the PAT. It's impossible to block.

At least, the PAT needs to be moved back enough to where it's not automatic. It needs to be earned. I'd say make it a 35 yard attempt. At least not less than a 30 yard attempt. Pretty much everything under 30 is automatic. That would put some drama in the PAT, and I don't think it would be such a change that those who hate change for change sake would be too upset over that. That way, if there happens to be an offensive penalty on the PAT, then it really puts them in danger of missing the point. I'd say either that or just go for two after every TD.

And, while someone mentioned kick-offs, why not actually award 3 points to those kickers who manage to kick the ball through the uprights on the kick off. It does happen (maybe not often, but it does) and I think the kicker should be award for being able to do that. The other team would still get the ball placed at the 20 as if it were a touchback, but the kicker would get awarded for the kick-off going through the upright. Think about this: A team literally has a chance to go up by two scores before giving the ball back to the other team. That, then forces the other team to really step it up a notch if they're going to get back in the game.

[Alvin Walton]

Eliminate the two point conversion and the kicking element.
Put the ball on the 10 for pass or run one point conversion.
That would make or break a lot of games.

[Paintrain]

I voted 'yes' they should consider eliminating the XP but I'd rather see them modify it by making it an actual play. Give teams the option to kick from the 18 yd line (35 yd FG) for one or run a play from the 3 yd line for two. Adds an element of strategy to each scoring play and execution so that it's not automatic.