Bills Post Game Massacre. U like thats and dislikes

[SolidSnake84]

Here is a question that i don't really have an answer for:

Seeing all of the guys who are "day to day" on injury report, WHO actually makes the decision on if a player plays or not? Is it the team doctor? or the player?

Say for example someone like Alfred Morris has some kind of injury, let's just say it is his knee. Medical logic says he should set, but what if Morris was just 100% dead set on playing and helping the team? Could he make the decision to play on a bad knee / play injured, etc? Or does a higher power so to speak rule him out???

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Here is a question that i don't really have an answer for:

Seeing all of the guys who are "day to day" on injury report, WHO actually makes the decision on if a player plays or not? Is it the team doctor? or the player?

Say for example someone like Alfred Morris has some kind of injury, let's just say it is his knee. Medical logic says he should set, but what if Morris was just 100% dead set on playing and helping the team? Could he make the decision to play on a bad knee / play injured, etc? Or does a higher power so to speak rule him out???

I would say with what's at stake everyone will play unless it's really bad. If they win they can rest them the following week.

[skinsfaninok]

Griffin won't last 10 games in chips offense he's not an accurate enough passer

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Griffin won't last 10 games in chips offense he's not an accurate enough passer

When RG3 finally decides to release the ball, he is a good passer. He just has to make the decision to throw it and not stand in the pocket until he takes a sack. The problem RG3 will have in Chips system is making fast decisions and acting on them correctly. Doesnt matter if people get open if he wont throw the ball on time.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

When RG3 finally decides to release the ball, he is a good passer. He just has to make the decision to throw it and not stand in the pocket until he takes a sack. The problem RG3 will have in Chips system is making fast decisions and acting on them correctly. Doesnt matter if people get open if he wont throw the ball on time.

Robert Griffin is a spread offense, read option quarterback.... he has little if any true quarterback awareness....had he gone to Stanford and played under Harbaugh instead of going to Baylor and playing under Briles, he would be a far different quarterback right now.

[NoCalHail]

Most times when someone is listed day-to-day they end up playing, it's just that the coaches don't want to say so too soon in case of that small chance something goes wrong later in the week.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Day to day means exactly what it says. The injury will be evaluated on a daily basis and a decision regarding availability to play will be made when it is necessary based on league rules.

[NC_Skins]

Why in the hell is RG3 being talked about? Who gives a fuck really.


Got to say I'm proud of the team for winning 2 in a row and the game was no doubt huge in the grand scheme of it all. Crowder's fumble and the long TDs were my only gripes about the game in general. Hope they carry this momentum into Philly because this game is for all the marbles.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Why in the hell is RG3 being talked about? Who gives a fuck really.


Got to say I'm proud of the team for winning 2 in a row and the game was no doubt huge in the grand scheme of it all. Crowder's fumble and the long TDs were my only gripes about the game in general. Hope they carry this momentum into Philly because this game is for all the marbles.

I think good organizations respect players who brought something to their team. Yes we need to release him, but I think at this point we talk about him as a thank you for the 2012 season and give him a start to his next point on the horizon.

[JoeRedskin]

I'm thinking:

RGIII - Houston
Bradford stays in Philly
Manziel - Dallas
Kap - ???

As for the rooks, I have no clue.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I'm thinking:

RGIII - Houston
Bradford stays in Philly
Manziel - Dallas
Kap - ???

As for the rooks, I have no clue.

How is Bradford gonna stay in Philly when our Baker makes a philly cheesesteak out of him this weekend???

[Chico23231]

At this point, the only way Bradford stays is if they advance in the playoffs.

Cleveland would back the truck up for him


RG3 may want to go home, but Bill Obrien wants a traditional QB in Houston for his offense. Cook at MSU is about as traditional as they come.

Reid really liked RG3 in the draft and he has a record with athletic guys with big arms. Alex Smith could end up somewhere like Houston

[CRedskinsRule]

The only thing I will say 30 regarding the run game, is that IF (and its a big if) the goal is to move the team in a certain direction, and this year is a known re-building year (for example, SM saying that we may not win a lot of games but teams will know they played the Skins), then altering the run game style midseason, when 4 critical players (2 OL and 2 TE) went out, doesn't make as much sense as getting the team going in the direction that the coach wants it to go. So you deal with crappy run output, but keep teaching your fundamentals, your scheme, your plan, and you keep looking for the players that make that work.

Now I know everyone here will scream a coach should adjust to his players, but is that ALWAYS a valid statement? If as in our case the top 4 options go down, should you adjust the entire offensive structure to fit players who aren't in the long term plan, or should you look toward the future and just acknowledge that we don't have the horses to pull right now.

It's a fine line, and if we were in year 3 of SM/JG, and the whole 53man roster was built with one design in mind I would say yes tweak the offense to the next guy up, but we have players from multiple schemes, and a HC who clearly has a scheme that he thinks he can win with.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The only thing I will say 30 regarding the run game, is that IF (and its a big if) the goal is to move the team in a certain direction, and this year is a known re-building year (for example, SM saying that we may not win a lot of games but teams will know they played the Skins), then altering the run game style midseason, when 4 critical players (2 OL and 2 TE) went out, doesn't make as much sense as getting the team going in the direction that the coach wants it to go. So you deal with crappy run output, but keep teaching your fundamentals, your scheme, your plan, and you keep looking for the players that make that work.

I'm certain there is goal in mind from Scott concerning how/what type of player will be acquired going forward. I'm also sure that another goal is to maximize the available talent. I don't view the 2 as mutually exclusive. You don't need to have a crappy run output to maintain teaching your fundamentals, scheme and plan.

Now I know everyone here will scream a coach should adjust to his players, but is that ALWAYS a valid statement?

For me? Yes. Absolutely.

Is it easy? Nope.

In fact I think very few coaches, are actually good at it. I think the league is filled with good coaches that can basically only coach their scheme in their terminology and their is nothing wrong with that. Its the elite coaches, imo, that have the ability to adapt and its that ability that allows some organizations and teams to have sustained success.

If as in our case the top 4 options go down, should you adjust the entire offensive structure to fit players who aren't in the long term plan, or should you look toward the future and just acknowledge that we don't have the horses to pull right now.

Right now we're talking in broad undefined strokes here and that usually doesn't work well with football. But from my view you don't have to adjust "an entire offensive structure" to adjust to injuries/changes in personnel. Coaching is about adjustments. From play to play from game to game.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I'm certain there is goal in mind from Scott concerning how/what type of player will be acquired going forward. I'm also sure that another goal is to maximize the available talent. I don't view the 2 as mutually exclusive. You don't need to have a crappy run output to maintain teaching your fundamentals, scheme and plan.

For me? Yes. Absolutely.

Is it easy? Nope.

In fact I think very few coaches, are actually good at it. I think the league is filled with good coaches that can basically only coach their scheme in their terminology and their is nothing wrong with that. Its the elite coaches, imo, that have the ability to adapt and its that ability that allows some organizations and teams to have sustained success.

Right now we're talking in broad undefined strokes here and that usually doesn't work well with football. But from my view you don't have to adjust "an entire offensive structure" to adjust to injuries/changes in personnel. Coaching is about adjustments. From play to play from game to game.

I think Gruden has gotten a lot better about in game adjustments, but I disagree that when 4-5 scheme critical players go out, you adjust your offense to sub-par talent (IN A TRUE REBUILDING YEAR). I disagree for the simple reason that you want to find out which players can and will learn the scheme you are implementing.

I'm really not talking broad strokes. I am saying that the Skins, this year, with this roster should not have adjusted their scheme to include more use of DY as a blocking fullback, IF their goal is to see how players stepped up to the roles they need to fill going forward. Does it make our team record worse this year, yes, does it also fit with SM's mentality of building our team for the future, yes.

Every fan wants to win every game, but I think this year (and maybe only this year) coaching gets a small pass because of three very real factors:
1) the roster is not very deep, I expect that to be a non-issue next year
2) at 2 or 3 key spots that were not top priority areas (TE/Left side OL/WR) we took multiple season impacting injuries
3) the team fundamentals have been lacking for several years, and upper management hasn't helped till SM seemingly stepped in and said that aint the way it's done.