Is the End Near For Bruce Allen?

[MTK]

I think the hottest seat right now is Manusky


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[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by MTK

I think the hottest seat right now is Manusky


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I don’t agree. We’ve seen the DCs change, but the results are the same. The common denominators are Allen and Gruden. Also, it was them that picked these coordinators, and passed over people like Wade Phillips. At what point do you hold the decision makers on picking these DCs responsible!!??

The defense was the only bright spot at the start of the year. We’ve seen 3 coordinators. Can’t keep blaming them. This is a bigger problem.


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[RedskinJake]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

I don’t agree. We’ve seen the DCs change, but the results are the same. The common denominators are Allen and Gruden. Also, it was them that picked these coordinators, and passed over people like Wade Phillips. At what point do you hold the decision makers on picking these DCs responsible!!??

The defense was the only bright spot at the start of the year. We’ve seen 3 coordinators. Can’t keep blaming them. This is a bigger problem.


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I keep reading that we passed over on Wade Phillips but I was under the impression that he chose the Rams over the Redskins. Did the Redskins actually pass on him?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by RedskinJake

I keep reading that we passed over on Wade Phillips but I was under the impression that he chose the Rams over the Redskins. Did the Redskins actually pass on him?

Yes we passed over him and went with Barry. We could have had him here, son was on staff.

Yes you read that right, passed on Wade and went with Barry.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yes we passed over him and went with Barry. We could have had him here, son was on staff.

Yes you read that right, passed on Wade and went with Barry.

And then passed on Gus Bradley to go with Manusky.

This 'only hire people you know' stuff is fucking idiotic to me. Honestly I don't understand it. I'm a hiring manager, I cast as wide a net and get the best possible resume I can, I don't care who they are. And I can't understand why it would be any different in football. It's poor leadership by Gruden.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by MTK

I think the hottest seat right now is Manusky


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I agree, no injuries except Dunbar and awful results.

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[MTK]

I’m saying waking up tomorrow what name wouldn’t surprise me to see in the news? Manusky is the easy choice. No major changes with Gruden or Allen are going to be made in season.


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[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by MTK

I’m saying waking up tomorrow what name wouldn’t surprise me to see in the news? Manusky is the easy choice. No major changes with Gruden or Allen are going to be made in season.


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I know Snyder has a long history of making rash moves, but he has every right to fire Allen and Gruden now. I’m sure most people would completely support him too.


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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

I know Snyder has a long history of making rash moves, but he has every right to fire Allen and Gruden now. I’m sure most people would completely support him too.


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People make these crazy statements about DS, but in the last 10-15 years please tell me what "rash moves" snyder has made?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

I’m saying waking up tomorrow what name wouldn’t surprise me to see in the news? Manusky is the easy choice. No major changes with Gruden or Allen are going to be made in season.


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I disagree. I think an in season firing only happens if Allen goes. Jay basically said his staff isnt changing and DS wouldn't/shouldn't be hiring or firing assistant coaches. Snyder also has been vocal about not firing coaches midseason, but the last time it got this bad -9 years ago- we did wake up to see VC out on his ass.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Bruce and Jay are safe until the end of the season.

Bruce will certainly be let go. He’ll go to Oakland and be a puppet “GM” for Jon Gruden.

Snyder will work behind the scenes to try and lure another big name coach here. I doubt he’ll succeed, so I Jay will get another year under the new GM (probably Kyle Smith). If Snyder can lure a big name here (maybe a Harbaugh), then i think Jay lands in Cleveland or perhaps even in Oakland as OC.




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[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Bruce and Jay are safe until the end of the season.

Bruce will certainly be let go. He’ll go to Oakland and be a puppet “GM” for Jon Gruden.

Snyder will work behind the scenes to try and lure another big name coach here. I doubt he’ll succeed, so I Jay will get another year under the new GM (probably Kyle Smith). If Snyder can lure a big name here (maybe a Harbaugh), then i think Jay lands in Cleveland or perhaps even in Oakland as OC.




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I could see this happening


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[skinsfaninok]

The Browns are going to keep Gregg Williams, do u see how competitive they are now?? No chance they let Williams walk

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The Browns are going to keep Gregg Williams, do u see how competitive they are now?? No chance they let Williams walk

They could but I don’t think that’s a lock at all



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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

They could but I don’t think that’s a lock at all



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If they finish with a winning record while he's HC, and don't keep him that would be the most Browns thing ever.